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Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs
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* Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs
@ 2025-05-21 08:06 Manav Kumar <[email protected]>
  2025-05-21 13:35 ` Re: Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs Tom Lane <[email protected]>
  2025-05-21 13:52 ` Re: Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
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From: Manav Kumar @ 2025-05-21 08:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: [email protected]

Hi Team,
Can you please correct me regarding the precedence order of overriding the
DEFAULT values for GUC's.

Is it right to say, GUC passed in the start up packet will override the
default value set by using ALTER DATABASE/ROLE. ?
I've verified by running locally.
But in the https://arc.net/l/quote/qnpjwhcw (DOCS) it says ALTER
DATABASE/ROLE can override the cmd line options passed in startup packet.
Also just below that paragraph for Interaction with Shell, it says about
startup/cmd line options only overriding the default set via alter system
or postgresql.conf

Please correct me is it correct order of applying the defaults:

1. Using start up packet (i.e using env var or passing cmd line option)
2. Using alter database/role
3. Setting via postgresql.conf or using alter system

Looking forward to hearing the response.
Thanks
Manav


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* Re: Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs
  2025-05-21 08:06 Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs Manav Kumar <[email protected]>
@ 2025-05-21 13:35 ` Tom Lane <[email protected]>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2025-05-21 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manav Kumar <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]

Manav Kumar <[email protected]> writes:
> Can you please correct me regarding the precedence order of overriding the
> DEFAULT values for GUC's.

The precedence order is determined by the GucSource enum:

https://github.com/postgres/postgres/blob/master/src/include/utils/guc.h#L111

			regards, tom lane





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* Re: Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs
  2025-05-21 08:06 Confirming precedence order of Default for GUCs Manav Kumar <[email protected]>
@ 2025-05-21 13:52 ` David G. Johnston <[email protected]>
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From: David G. Johnston @ 2025-05-21 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manav Kumar <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>

On Wednesday, May 21, 2025, Manav Kumar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>

> But in the https://arc.net/l/quote/qnpjwhcw (DOCS) it says ALTER
> DATABASE/ROLE can override the cmd line options passed in startup packet.
>

The docs do not say that and in fact do not describe how packet startup
options interplay with user/database settings - at least not explicitly.

The fact Tom had to point to the source code for this suggests our
documentation could use some improvement.

David J.


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