X-Original-To: pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org Received: from spampd.localdomain (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B574765C1; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.ihs.com (mail1.ihs.com [170.207.70.222]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5949D47592C; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from css120.ihs.com (css120.ihs.com [170.207.105.120]) by mail1.ihs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h48GTv5g026325; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:29:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:20:19 -0600 (MDT) From: "scott.marlowe" To: johnnnnnn Cc: Sean Chittenden , , , Subject: Re: [PERFORM] [SQL] Unanswered Questions WAS: An unresolved performance In-Reply-To: <20030508144738.GA18774@performics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-31.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200305/41 X-Sequence-Number: 6002 On Thu, 8 May 2003, johnnnnnn wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 09:57:49PM -0700, Sean Chittenden wrote: > > I hate to point this out, but "TIP 4" is getting a bit old and the 6 > > tips that we throw out to probably about 40K people about 1-200 > > times a day have probably reached saturation. Without looking at > > the archives, I bet anyone a shot of good scotch that, it's probably > > pretty infrequent that people don't kill -9 their postmasters. > > > > Any chance we could flush out the TIPs at the bottom to include, > > "VACUUM ANALYZE your database regularly," or "When reporting a > > problem, include the output from EXPLAIN [query]," or "ANALYZE > > tables before examining the output from an EXPLAIN [query]," or > > "Visit [url] for a tutorial on (schemas|triggers|views)." > > Better yet, have TIPs that are appropriate to the subscribed > list. -performance has different posting guidelines, things to try, > etc. than does -bugs, than does -sql (than does -hackers, than does > -interfaces, ...). > > I don't know how feasible it is to separate them out, but i think it's > worth looking into. Agreed. Also, some tips might well cross over, like say, vacuum and analyze regularly. Hmmm. Sounds like a job for a relational database :-)