Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qlPKz-002epW-EP for pgsql-translators@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:52:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qlPKy-001FDB-1Z for pgsql-translators@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:52:00 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qlPKx-001FCx-QK for pgsql-translators@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:51:59 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qlPKv-007qkj-0r for pgsql-translators@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:51:59 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46392FB1E7B for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s934.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E0A2E28200; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s472.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s934.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FCD7CEA5C; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:51:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.01 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from s934.loopia.se ([172.22.191.5]) by s472.loopia.se (s472.loopia.se [172.22.190.12]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with UTF8LMTP id 41wdNGxA_MDR; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:51:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.193 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-193.stosn.net [89.255.232.193]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s934.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0FFC37CEA6E; Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:51:55 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.3\)) Subject: Re: Is translating server messages really worth it? From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:51:54 +0200 Cc: Pavlo Golub , pgsql-translators@lists.postgresql.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <361D89C9-47AF-4315-A48F-CEECD0886E91@yesql.se> References: To: Guillaume Lelarge X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.3) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 26 Sep 2023, at 22:17, Guillaume Lelarge = wrote: > Le mar. 26 sept. 2023 =C3=A0 11:28, Pavlo Golub > a =C3=A9crit : > Satisfying requirements > It sounds bureaucratic; nevertheless, we need a fully translated = product to pass some government, military, and education requirements. = I've met a situation when a product lost tender only because it wasn't = localized. And I don't need to remind which products are always = localized and in good shape: mssql, oracle, etc. >=20 > I don't believe we have this issue in France. At the very least, I've = never heard about this in France. Having a french manual, yes. But = French translation of server logs, I don't think so. Interesting, I think we have the opposite. While not mandatory in = Sweden I believe "software available in Swedish" is a quite common constraint in gov/council etc tenders (and unless there is a constraint on which = messages it applies to, it applies to all of the software but not the manual). -- Daniel Gustafsson