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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2026 11:02:31 +0200
From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de>
To: Thom Brown <thom@linux.com>
Cc: pgsql-translators@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: psql translations at risk of being dropped for 19
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On 2026-Jul-31, Thom Brown wrote:

> > For guidance on contributing translations, as well as the technical
> > processes, see https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS
> 
> Bumping this in case folk didn't see it.

Hi Thom, I noticed that your email server chain has some problem, so
some of the recipients of your email from the list actually rejected it as
spam/invalid.  For instance, my local copy of this email (after having
gone through my mail provider) has the following header:

Authentication-Results: phl-mx-02.messagingengine.com;
        dkim=none (no signatures found);
        dmarc=fail policy.published-domain-policy=none
        policy.applied-disposition=none
        policy.evaluated-disposition=none
        policy.override-reason=trusted_forwarder
        policy.arc-aware-result=fail
        (p=none,has-list-id=yes,d=none,d.eval=none,override=trusted_forwarder,arc_aware_result=fail)
        policy.policy-from=p header.from=linux.com;
        iprev=pass smtp.remote-ip=217.196.149.56
        (malur.postgresql.org);
        spf=pass
        smtp.mailfrom=
        pgsql-translators-owner+M91739-780988@lists.postgresql.org
        smtp.helo=malur.postgresql.org


The bounce messages for users in the outlook.com domain look more or
less like this:

550 5.7.515 Access denied, sending domain LINUX.COM doesn't meet the required authentication level. The sender's domain in the 5322.From address doesn't meet the authentication requirements defined for the sender. To learn how to fix this see:
https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=2319303 Spf= Pass , Dkim= Fail , DMARC= Fail


Now, I don't know if you're going to receive this email, as I've noticed
that there's a domain in the middle of your delivery chain
(forwardemail.com) that seems to reject emails from kurilemu.de.  Even
worse, it appears that your provider rejects mailing list email traffic
coming from yourself, such as this one,


thom@linux.com
host mx1.forwardemail.net [2a02:6ea0:d71e::2]
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
550 5.1.1 Message likely to be spoofing attack and was rejected due to lack of SPF alignment with From header

which was a complain about this email:
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAA-aLv4EaKygRp5pRFgNK6wRJ+u=zx5BrTQhrVa_QZoO_nr2-A@mail.gmail.com

I suspect you're using the linux.com outgoing server incorrectly.
(Sending directly via gmail instead of using linux.com's SMTP server?)

-- 
Álvaro Herrera               48°01'N 7°57'E  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
<inflex> really, I see PHP as like a strange amalgamation of C, Perl, Shell
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       more or less, right?
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