Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxCz-0003vv-Td for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:34:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxCy-0008WT-Pt for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:34:32 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxCy-0008WM-Ey for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:34:32 +0000 Received: from mail-lj1-x244.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::244]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hdxCs-0006Cm-6Q for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 13:34:32 +0000 Received: by mail-lj1-x244.google.com with SMTP id v24so2683307ljg.13 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hagander-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=N9w2dMDbnFFnt1C9EmNAGUHqAJ3JIL+3Ka2vL3hhg98=; b=glC6m8ZLw69nXmhvTA8sJ+HZpuRq5e6f40gGv2FFUiGVscG3qTlDifJFhf90l7/IRg q6jMezo4JgfJs4zl5QFshfRrH7N+rCR26HLl+UwHTw+MIaW44fwdi9p4ToTRAGOBNv38 BDIbQiBTkY7iAeIAqqV8LjHevbqOg5BoX9Q+zkieJPGpPyGhqOtNE1bhJA5KOswNButR 2Uu7HGI3mBOsQSboTN+QB+VTF/SwUUc1mYbyLefvTQjIwQqunq81zbECyrAtGmbliDZ4 1LRk6HsBvxdZ5KjNTfd/R6f7kQMkhDJvLwE48p7jHmTjgD7P4mfikGt4liXenLqo3saD AOBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=N9w2dMDbnFFnt1C9EmNAGUHqAJ3JIL+3Ka2vL3hhg98=; b=NjTfkyiItW5qmuRhMHXPAnXkSS3aCWSFouHLnsTaczTI6aI4BT/HzIHZWkacyCzInD BJ1/5fdU6NfQ00DVfh96i89E1hms/EDa1IBypa/772+6YYAaSuGkjEpsU3qwcWJa6oJX LUADB/RdQjd8q5v4sQcmWhW8KCxG9gOb1nYUbEn4D0PDWpeqmBh88uuqFmO+uKzvnf/K sStBCiG/89CO639TEo6cT1XE1sI4+Aju9lDN95Hoj4m6KNPiFj/AO/ruoGN7BJwNdQQI ZRtPYQeAi2OyHSfGPnHjk8+/EOLzfoDeb/62EIAy7skYtK/G3hp+ee6TYkAUw2VS9P0T Tp3w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXcKaFmLmqqK4dzuowYWBGrDW4LDwjmAAHlaen/7CYE2c0IRkVt nITJ6Jkcfjk/eCwimMuvgtV4YCsdvsvEvTAuegoZWQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzPZDTilTUmLlUNkxqGbB8OBMcnuPBqBfCtWB+CjOBBSy5GzMUkSZaBJEC4bawRMVigdOiYE1ahtFwOBudUHmM= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:2c07:: with SMTP id s7mr29841661ljs.44.1561037665114; Thu, 20 Jun 2019 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Magnus Hagander Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2019 15:34:13 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Postgres Women talk at pgconfeu To: Renee Phillips Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A6titia_Avrot?= , pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000082ad43058bc1676b" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --00000000000082ad43058bc1676b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 4:46 AM Renee Phillips wrote: > I think it could be a great idea to do a panel! Four or five women on the > panel and a woman moderator? > > Goodness knows we have seen enough all male panels. We could have it not > even be noticeably a woman only panel by the title.... > I'll just throw in a quick note -- we have tried out having panels in the past at some of our events. I have personally yet to see a single panel at *any* postgres event that wasn't completely crap. Regardless of who's on it. So prepare yourselves for having to do some pretty hard convincing work to get around that :) There's a reason we stopped even trying. (That said, I'm not on the talk committee, so it's not *me* you have to convince, but there are most likely others with similar experiences) //Magnus --00000000000082ad43058bc1676b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 4:46 AM Renee Phi= llips <renee.phillips@gmail.= com> wrote:
I think it could be a great idea to do a panel! Four or= five women on the panel and a woman moderator?=C2=A0

Go= odness knows we have seen enough all male panels. We could have it not even= be noticeably a woman only panel by the title....
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I'll just throw in a quick note -- we have tried ou= t having panels in the past at some of our events. I have personally yet to= see a single panel at *any* postgres event that wasn't completely crap= . Regardless of who's on it. So prepare yourselves for having to do som= e pretty hard convincing work to get around that :) There's a reason we= stopped even trying. (That said, I'm not on the talk committee, so it&= #39;s not *me* you have to convince, but there are most likely others with = similar experiences)

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