Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hCleG-0000Hu-KT for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 13:46:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hCleE-0002sB-Rd for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 13:46:18 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hCleE-0002rt-Ba for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 13:46:18 +0000 Received: from mail-it1-x135.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::135]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hCle6-0001q7-LX for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 13:46:16 +0000 Received: by mail-it1-x135.google.com with SMTP id y134so7444561itc.5 for ; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 06:46:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=L/jWOrym2mq+HgF0/J+jLvYW9GD58YxUJ6vdFwgB0p0=; b=QjuolpTEsJXLjVhrTYNkgF+lzTKWPrwv6t7F1GPlf68j+PffZMjHhChakO/VGZdpve Dt5HC8Bmaa3hjjJvCGAlziuq4qrSkhHSNdqWWhXanwI6K2jrlL7v67BrHehBtXowqE4x TKGTqFOa4DPGnuOtI5qSecQqNjEhxOb3oqcYb6OWHoDAFN7mRm7XhUP30/t8YWSlWlnu ltZJ2+wWwM8rqovJqmlW5vrMxetooNlhHl+K/hJsfwGWRPe1p4FDmjI20Dhuwyt0lD/m iygAxBWCPP4BzPD6ZGPCNNzrUCyPExO8JAEBalGHVOqiR92buZOmN3lqspuIGV+zMWBP x+jQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=L/jWOrym2mq+HgF0/J+jLvYW9GD58YxUJ6vdFwgB0p0=; b=ZpLe2VepJvDfj+9vsogkiHg6a8CBpZaEzCFkgCX/a1O76/hb4GmnqsZsRlBcCOC9Jz ixHkqub6VY0TRySvUprSVrYVbNELicko/eIQ2vV2bxO3TkFoxpMyIBXICbtNPKG0NxrX u4n3Ky8OPtiQ972h9U5uEuxF1/jxSkTa31MZ83nh/62tL2U9xXphejqb8T5y1kSgI5RR bnHX/ri0eOxypCr/JzyxhQXlDhhsrr97gP+rRw0h9cFZ4r9dHqgmKhyWjWW3vcanA53I KKzboMzMH8FXu20GKha9J5UnpNnPdpK2eFUIyEh62SGABrVzxeDVfJosiwTn610H402b sFyg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWrvZbKkqNW8q717r1qehT+RwG3MshYj8lK45ZM6IIGHhZ+5DK8 hD9qp1jDRQlEC8vq4JDyXRJ2r0n2rlmKNltkpkzMWrVY X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwCEyJvyzpjRCFrt7tUKkRabVNRjZRf9BmQChhGq+vo1k55PLjcboswKoWVMdcb2XKRiiq09mrs9BOE8WhklRA= X-Received: by 2002:a24:c455:: with SMTP id v82mr5336088itf.143.1554558369080; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 06:46:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9c224f35-3b2e-d83c-5091-4bae3a885af8@dcc.uchile.cl> <2233FBCE-5634-498F-BF56-120E7FFE79DE@gmail.com> <50a01b83-6d49-51a6-39a9-eac069e41bf9@dcc.uchile.cl> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A6titia_Avrot?= Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 15:45:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Pgday italy To: pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005f2c500585dcd346" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --0000000000005f2c500585dcd346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm sorry to bother you, but I really could do with some help with the flyer content (I can put that in form). For now here's what I have: *What you can do to help if you're a man:* 1. *Be open with other men about your commitment to make the community more inclusive and invite them to join. * 2. *Mentor and/or sponsor emerging women in the community. * 3. *Speak up if you observe gender bias. Report CoC violations.* 4. *Help with Postgres Women organization.* 5. *Make women feel welcome in the community.* *What you can do if you're a woman:* 1. *Mentor and/or sponsor emerging women in the community.* 2. *Attend to conf talk events and to social events afterwards.* 3. *Speak to conf talk events and encourage other women to do so.* 4. *Speak up if you observe gender bias. Report CoC violations.* 5. *Help with Postgres Women organization.* And for the other side (inclusive vocabulary): *Bossy: This term has been skewed to be a negative term to describe a woman that is direct and communicates expectations.* *Guys: Using =E2=80=9Cguys=E2=80=9D to address all people is gendered langu= ages that may insinuate that men are the preferred gender at your organization. Instead, use gender-neutral language such as; folks, people, you all, y=E2=80=99all,= and teammates.* *Girl/Girls: For anyone over 18 years old, woman or women is a better choice.* *Females: To many English speakers, =E2=80=9Cfemales=E2=80=9D sounds like a= scientific designation one would use for animals or plants. Try =E2=80=9Cwomen=E2=80= =9D instead.* *Housekeeping: In reference to office work, this language can feel gendered. Suggested alternative: maintenance, cleanup* *Ladies/gals: Terms like =E2=80=9Cladies=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cgals=E2=80=9D o= r others can feel patronizing to some. Try women instead, or =E2=80=9Cfolks=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cpeople=E2= =80=9D for mixed-gender groups.* *Man: As a synonym for work =E2=80=94 as in =E2=80=9Cman hours,=E2=80=9D = =E2=80=9Cman the inbox,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cman the conference booth,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 this is unnecessarily gendered languag= e. Try using work instead. More inclusive: Folks, people, you all, y=E2=80=99all, teamma= tesMr and Mrs: In English, Mr. is used for all men. However, in the past, women were either =E2=80=98Mrs.=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98Miss=E2=80=99 depending on w= hether they were married. Now, =E2=80=98Ms.=E2=80=99 is used for all women. =E2=80=98Ms.=E2=80=99 reflects= that it is not important to know whether a woman is married or not. * *They: Using they/them to indicate a single, gender neutral person is now commonly accepted. * Do you have other ideas ? I need to make the order quickly, so I really could do with your help! Cheers, L=C3=A6titia Le jeu. 4 avr. 2019 =C3=A0 09:09, L=C3=A6titia Avrot a =C3=A9crit : > Hello Postgres Women, > > I have excellent news: I asked PostgreSQL Europe for money to buy flyers, > stickers and business cards for Postgres Women (and PGDay Italy) and they > say yes, as long as those items are used in Europe only (because PostgreS= QL > Europe can't provide anything outside Europe). > > So now, I think I could do with some help about the flyers (I had a rate > for two sides printing). In my mind,flyers would be 105x297mm (that's hal= f > a portrait A4 sheet). I thought we could have on one side the what you ca= n > do if your a man/woman and the inclusive glossary on the other, what do y= ou > think ? > > For the stickers, I think we could simply have the logo. > > For the business cards, I designed both sides you'll find enclosed (orang= e > rectangle is where the cards will be cut). Any suggestions ? > > Have a nice day, > > L=C3=A6titia > > Le lun. 25 mars 2019 =C3=A0 22:48, Boriss Mejias = a > =C3=A9crit : > >> g=C3=BCl=C3=A7in y=C4=B1ld=C4=B1r=C4=B1m wrote on 25.03.19 16:44: >> > Since there is no objection and Ilaria is willing to do the booth duty >> (and her >> > travel expenses are covered) we can give the first free ticket to her. >> > >> > I saw one more women interested in the free tickets on Twitter. Has sh= e >> > contacted us yet? Is she willing to help out Ilaria and Boriss at the >> booth? >> >> Just to clarify, I'm not going to PgDay Italy. Although I have been >> thinking >> about ideas for the flyers and I have two: >> >> 1. Based on the lightning talk given by Renee and Louise at Nordic PgDay= , >> there >> could be a flyer with a list of things to do "if you are a woman" AND "i= f >> you >> are a man". Like that, we, as men, can also understand the problem. >> >> 2. "Gender Neutral Vocabulary Cheat Sheet". This would be really useful. >> For >> instance, I didn't know that saying "Hello guys" wasn't gender neutral. >> My >> female English teacher said it was plural for people, both men and women= . >> In >> doubt, I even asked once to two girls from the USA whether I could say >> "hello >> guys" to them, and they say it was OK. Anyway, this was at the beginning >> of the >> century.... but still, sometimes we use non-neutral vocabulary because o= f >> ignorance, not explicitly, so, having a flyer with a list of words to >> avoid and >> words to use instead would be useful. Note that it's not enough with >> sentences >> like: "don't say this..." The flyer needs to provide a correct >> alternative that >> is gender neutral. It shouldn't be a flyer to just ban words, but also t= o >> propose solutions. >> >> That's what I could come up with. I hope it helps. >> >> Cheers >> Boriss >> >> >> > >> > Cheers, >> > G=C3=BCl=C3=A7in >> > >> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:40, L=C3=A6titia Avrot > > > wrote: >> > >> > +1 to give Illaria a ticket. >> > >> > Le sam. 23 mars 2019 =C3=A0 12:47, g=C3=BCl=C3=A7in y=C4=B1ld=C4= =B1r=C4=B1m < >> yildirim.gulcin88@gmail.com >> > > a =C3=A9crit : >> > >> > As far as I know (group needs to confirm this), the conference >> gave us 5 >> > free tickets, so you can have one of them. You are the perfect >> candidate >> > for the booth as well! Thank you for willing to do it <3 If yo= u >> are >> > worried about travel expenses I can personally cover your trai= n >> trip. >> > Just let me know if it helps you to come there. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > G=C3=BCl=C3=A7in >> > >> > On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 12:02, Ilaria < >> ilaria.battiston@gmail.com >> > > wrote: >> > >> > Good morning, >> > >> > I=E2=80=99m an Italian postgres fan and I would love to be= at the >> booth, I >> > can speak both Italian and English so that would be a plus= . >> > >> > I just checked the trains from my city (Milan) to Bologna >> and >> > they=E2=80=99re about 30=E2=82=AC for a round trip on the = 17th, so I should >> be able >> > to attend (I=E2=80=99m a little tight on money, so I can= =E2=80=99t give you >> 100% >> > availability yet). >> > >> > I=E2=80=99m a student, so purchasing an ordinary ticket wo= uld be >> more >> > expensive - maybe you can give me that one? Not sure how i= t >> works. >> > >> > Let me know, >> > Ilaria >> > >> > Am 23.03.2019 um 11:20 schrieb g=C3=BCl=C3=A7in y=C4=B1ld= =C4=B1r=C4=B1m >> > > yildirim.gulcin88@gmail.com>>: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> If we will give 5 free tickets perhaps we can ask those >> ladies to >> >> do some booth duty as well, that can be our requirement f= or >> >> ticket. We can decide what sort of tasks they should >> perform >> >> there, should not be anything hard even at the entry leve= l. >> >> >> >> If there will be no women at the booth, I would vote for >> not to >> >> open the booth at first place. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> G=C3=BCl=C3=A7in >> >> >> >> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 10:43, Boriss Mejias < >> bmejias@dcc.uchile.cl >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Great news L=C3=A6titia, >> >> >> >> Just one correction, the event is on the 17th of May. >> >> >> >> I hope you can find some women to be at the booth. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Boriss >> >> >> >> L=C3=A6titia Avrot wrote on 23.03.19 10:36: >> >> > Hi all, >> >> > >> >> > Pgday Italy organizers have is a booth and 5 free >> tickets. >> >> > >> >> > This event will take place the 19th of May in >> Bologna. >> >> > >> >> > So, first, we need to give away the 5 free >> tickets, so if >> >> you or a woman you >> >> > know is interested, just reply to me and I'll make >> sure >> >> you'll have one. >> >> > >> >> > Then, unfortunately, I won't be able to be there. >> I have a >> >> friend that could >> >> > be at the desk but he's a man and I'm concerned tha= t >> a >> >> postgres women booth with >> >> > only a man could send the wrong message... Is any >> woman >> >> there available for that >> >> > event? >> >> > >> >> > Last but not least, what do we want to have in the >> postgres >> >> women booth? Do we >> >> > want to give away stickers? Do we want to print som= e >> flyers? >> >> Do we want to >> >> > create awesome tee-shirts to sell (but it would mea= n >> for us >> >> to manage money)? Do >> >> > we want to print and give away a list of postgres >> women >> >> public speakers? (please >> >> > add your ideas here) >> >> > >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > >> >> > L=C3=A6titia Avrot >> >> >> >> > > -- > *Think! Do you really need to print this email ? * > *There is no Planet B.* > --=20 *Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. Please print responsibly.* --0000000000005f2c500585dcd346 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
=
I'm sorry to bother you, but I really could do with some help = with the flyer content (I can put that in form).

For now here's = what I have:

What you can do to help if you're a man:
  1. Be open with other men about your commitment to make the = community more inclusive and invite them to join.
  2. Mentor= and/or sponsor emerging women in the community.
  3. Speak u= p if you observe gender bias. Report CoC violations.
  4. Help wi= th Postgres Women organization.
  5. Make women feel welcome in t= he community.
What you can do if you're a woman:
  1. Mentor and/or sponsor emerging women in the c= ommunity.
  2. Attend to conf talk events and to social events af= terwards.
  3. Speak to conf talk events and encourage other wome= n to do so.
  4. Speak up if you observe gender bias. Report CoC = violations.
  5. Help with Postgres Women organization.
    6. <= /ol>

And for the other side (inclusive vocabulary)= :

Bossy: This term has been skewed to be a= negative term to describe a woman that is direct and communicates expectat= ions.

Guys: Using =E2=80=9Cguys=E2= =80=9D to address all people is gendered languages that may insinuate that = men are the preferred gender at your organization. Instead, use gender-neut= ral language such as; folks, people, you all, y=E2=80=99all, and teammates.=

Girl/Girls: For anyone over 18 year= s old, woman or women is a better choice.

Females: To many English speakers, =E2=80=9Cfemales=E2=80=9D sounds l= ike a scientific designation one would use for animals or plants. Try =E2= =80=9Cwomen=E2=80=9D instead.

Ho= usekeeping: In reference to office work, this language can feel gendered. S= uggested alternative: maintenance, cleanup

Ladies/gals: Terms like =E2=80=9Cladies=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cgals= =E2=80=9D or others can feel patronizing to some. Try women instead, or =E2= =80=9Cfolks=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cpeople=E2=80=9D for mixed-gender groups.

Man: As a synonym for work=E2=80= =8A=E2=80=94=E2=80=8Aas in =E2=80=9Cman hours,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cman the in= box,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cman the conference booth,=E2=80=9D=E2=80=8A=E2=80=94= =E2=80=8Athis is unnecessarily gendered language. Try using work instead. M= ore inclusive: Folks, people, you all, y=E2=80=99all, teammates

Mr a= nd Mrs: In English, Mr. is used for all men. However, in the past, women we= re either =E2=80=98Mrs.=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98Miss=E2=80=99 depending on whe= ther they were married. Now, =E2=80=98Ms.=E2=80=99 is used for all women. = =E2=80=98Ms.=E2=80=99 reflects that it is not important to know whether a w= oman is married or not.=C2=A0

= They:=C2=A0Using they/them to indicate a single, gender neutral person is n= ow commonly accepted.=C2=A0

Do you have other ideas ?

I n= eed to make the order quickly, so I really could do with your help!

= Cheers,

L=C3=A6titia

Le=C2=A0jeu. 4 avr. 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A009:09, L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com> a = =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hello Postgres Women,

I have excellent news: I as= ked PostgreSQL Europe for money to buy flyers, stickers and business cards = for Postgres Women (and PGDay Italy) and they say yes, as long as those ite= ms are used in Europe only (because PostgreSQL Europe can't provide any= thing outside Europe).

So now, I think I could do with some help abo= ut the flyers (I had a rate for two sides printing). In my mind,flyers woul= d be 105x297mm (that's half a portrait A4 sheet). I thought we could ha= ve on one side the what you can do if your a man/woman and the inclusive gl= ossary on the other, what do you think ?

For the stickers, I think w= e could simply have the logo.

For the business cards, I designed bot= h sides you'll find enclosed (orange rectangle is where the cards will = be cut). Any suggestions ?

Have a nice day,

L=C3=A6titia

Le=C2=A0lun. 25 mars 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A022:48, Boriss Mejias <= ;bmejias@dcc.uch= ile.cl> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
g=C3=BCl=C3=A7in y=C4=B1ld=C4=B1r=C4=B1m wrote on 25.03.= 19 16:44:
> Since there is no objection and Ilaria is willing to do the booth duty= (and her
> travel expenses are covered) we can give the first free ticket to her.=
>
> I saw one more women interested in the free tickets on Twitter. Has sh= e
> contacted us yet? Is she willing to help out Ilaria and Boriss at the = booth?

Just to clarify, I'm not going to PgDay Italy. Although I have been thi= nking
about ideas for the flyers and I have two:

1. Based on the lightning talk given by Renee and Louise at Nordic PgDay, t= here
could be a flyer with a list of things to do "if you are a woman"= AND "if you
are a man". Like that, we, as men, can also understand the problem.
2. "Gender Neutral Vocabulary Cheat Sheet". This would be really = useful. For
instance, I didn't know that saying "Hello guys" wasn't g= ender neutral. My
female English teacher said it was plural for people, both men and women. I= n
doubt, I even asked once to two girls from the USA whether I could say &quo= t;hello
guys" to them, and they say it was OK. Anyway, this was at the beginni= ng of the
century.... but still, sometimes we use non-neutral vocabulary because of <= br> ignorance, not explicitly, so, having a flyer with a list of words to avoid= and
words to use instead would be useful. Note that it's not enough with se= ntences
like: "don't say this..." The flyer needs to provide a correc= t alternative that
is gender neutral. It shouldn't be a flyer to just ban words, but also = to
propose solutions.

That's what I could come up with. I hope it helps.

Cheers
Boriss


>
> Cheers,
> G=C3=BCl=C3=A7in
>
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 17:40, L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com <= br> > <mailto:laetitia.avrot@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0+1 to give Illaria a ticket.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Le sam. 23 mars 2019 =C3=A0 12:47, g=C3=BCl=C3=A7in= y=C4=B1ld=C4=B1r=C4=B1m <yildirim.gulcin88@gmail.com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:yildirim.gulcin88@gmail.com>> a =C3=A9cr= it=C2=A0:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0As far as I know (group needs to conf= irm this), the conference gave us 5
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0free tickets, so you can have one of = them. You are the perfect candidate
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for the booth as well! Thank you for = willing to do it <3 If you are
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0worried about travel expenses I can p= ersonally cover your train trip.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Just let me know if it helps you to c= ome there.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0G=C3=BCl=C3=A7in
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 at 12:02, Ilaria = <ilaria.= battiston@gmail.com
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:ilaria.battiston@gmail.com>>= ; wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Good morning,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m an Italian = postgres fan and I would love to be at the booth, I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0can speak both Italian = and English so that would be a plus.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I just checked the trai= ns from my city (Milan) to Bologna and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they=E2=80=99re about 3= 0=E2=82=AC for a round trip on the 17th, so I should be able
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to attend (I=E2=80=99m = a little tight on money, so I can=E2=80=99t give you 100%
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0availability yet).
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m a student, = so purchasing an ordinary ticket would be more
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0expensive - maybe you c= an give me that one? Not sure how it works.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Let me know,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ilaria
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Am 23.03.2019 um 11:20 = schrieb g=C3=BCl=C3=A7in y=C4=B1ld=C4=B1r=C4=B1m
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<yildirim.gulcin88@gmail.com <mailto:yildirim.gulcin88@gmail.com>>:
>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi,
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If we will give 5 f= ree tickets perhaps we can ask those ladies to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0do some booth duty = as well, that can be our requirement for
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ticket. We can deci= de what sort of tasks they should perform
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0there, should not b= e anything hard even at the entry level.
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If there will be no= women at the booth, I would vote for not to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0open the booth at f= irst place.
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheers,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0G=C3=BCl=C3=A7in >>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sat, 23 Mar 2019= at 10:43, Boriss Mejias <bmejias@dcc.uchile.cl
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<mailto:bmejias@dcc.uchile.cl>> wrote:
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Great= news L=C3=A6titia,
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Just = one correction, the event is on the 17th of May.
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I hop= e you can find some women to be at the booth.
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cheer= s
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Boris= s
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>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0L=C3= =A6titia Avrot wrote on 23.03.19 10:36:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = Hi all,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = Pgday Italy organizers have is a booth and 5 free tickets.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = This event will take place the 19th of May in Bologna.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = So,=C2=A0 first,=C2=A0 we need to give away the 5 free tickets,=C2=A0 so if=
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you o= r a woman you
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = know is interested,=C2=A0 just reply to me and I'll make sure
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you&#= 39;ll have one.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = Then,=C2=A0 unfortunately,=C2=A0 I won't be able to be there. I have a<= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0frien= d that could
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = be at the desk but he's a man and I'm concerned that a
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0postg= res women booth with
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = only a man could send the wrong message... Is any woman
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0there= available for that
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = event?
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = Last but not least,=C2=A0 what do we want to have in the postgres
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0women= booth? Do we
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = want to give away stickers? Do we want to print some flyers?
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Do we= want to
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = create awesome tee-shirts to sell (but it would mean for us
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to ma= nage money)? Do
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = we want to print and give away a list of postgres women
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0publi= c speakers? (please
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = add your ideas here)
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = Cheers,
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><= br> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> = L=C3=A6titia Avrot
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