Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1heIdz-0006U4-Uz for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:27:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1heIdy-0005Xm-OA for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:27:50 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1heIdy-0005Ul-7s for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:27:50 +0000 Received: from mail-io1-xd2c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2c]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1heIdv-0002pf-LA for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 12:27:49 +0000 Received: by mail-io1-xd2c.google.com with SMTP id u13so678135iop.0 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 05:27:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=snjghgr5I/dW0LQApwnnqdmf/O5xy3lxuPMJEXdMskA=; b=P/hwF0cVDsWtSh+aGKwggPWqS+29su8VLhExdGIeOIx7tD5Xsl0lWFVvReOxXwJXwD uiXqWAa3ke3h7kVpsGXvY1CCdSCi7kc6GFO5ocTbEqtTuIWkrWiAUEsQQg/6Ali4rFxh tRyM0TQ4L6eDVWCUHm58peBLySQGimvx2Zr4KL4SDwb9+HZPIkqXzOFKzqAFHURnBbhs Eq6PK0SHVwsAu8vFDMJ+DIPYa+RqDUNthgvMLZm/SmMT9keTjJKLODv2gWOKRiXllCYa hDCu6oxiYTLP0iF6tM2WE/eOcUqMPancs1yiRz/Qu/FxMlZ8GPKJxaVeN9BN2Q0Ki4O3 f8dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=snjghgr5I/dW0LQApwnnqdmf/O5xy3lxuPMJEXdMskA=; b=HgAct6vvz7KFh/XrD10/huVV5bq+6JN7q0C8PVjShc5IIH0Wu5u5Cj2fvMT3M3kQVn 29WAyTjzp1054eZp71evzNvq8gYlWBbOdF1UnlsuR6OpCqfzomIDRD73SKoYqjxNmrA/ UiO0FDx0M3EvXxBM+Hpz9Xk/mOXz1zARhv7eLvWNeKMskqeNOVYycZEtjfigyWnT02J5 +liA7gsrqc3qeh5RS0gQDtnpP5TINDKxGB1s7STpZFfZVRb1hO5auaSil6w9QaEs2I+y 6z9SXFmTkuFeAa6nM9/jCt4EbRn/ibxbUIA0LlQ6PKHOuNY+Ed8locFzHHjg4+d2vB6+ cF3g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVhgRXsgXv0WsCkEpJxoVWLP9hm0o5D4yO/CBFGBelMRw5rOTFX o6YBZ9qmgx0wFotFLMHI9B3azZ+cjG4SjK57x6U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxVI6guOuvo4+7cnodHyrRATdQK2wkZFpC/340Df05J1j3QooN0IClwKmQ0P6bfyhQJjhfNMPr7CsHwWET1fa4= X-Received: by 2002:a02:1087:: with SMTP id 129mr2352347jay.131.1561120066715; Fri, 21 Jun 2019 05:27:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <97D1046E-438A-40E7-AFF9-B0EF0009A993@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <97D1046E-438A-40E7-AFF9-B0EF0009A993@gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A6titia_Avrot?= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:27:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Postgres Women talk at pgconfeu To: Ilaria Cc: Renee , pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000074478058bd497a0" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000074478058bd497a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ilaria, A panel is quite different from a talk as : - there are several people on stage - there is (normally) no slide - a moderator/leader is asking questions to the panel (people on stage) - it lasts around 20 minutes and for the 20-30 minutes that come after, the audience is asking questions I hope this is helpful. L=C3=A6titia Le jeu. 20 juin 2019 =C3=A0 15:33, Ilaria a = =C3=A9crit : > Just to clarify, a panel is something different from a talk, is it? Are w= e > still having a pgwomen-focussed paper submission as a community? > > I use PG for exploratory analysis, if you need anything, I=E2=80=99m avai= lable :) > > Ilaria > > Am 20.06.2019 um 15:24 schrieb Renee : > > Yes. It should absolutely be a technical topic. There are plenty of place= s > for men to go to hear what it=E2=80=99s like to be a woman in tech. We do= n=E2=80=99t need > to spend the time of five or six women to keep telling them it=E2=80=99s = hard and > here=E2=80=99s one weird trick we use to make our days easier (argh, I gi= ve a D&I > talk, I would never ask anyone to give a D&I talk, it=E2=80=99s really qu= ite > stressful and a lot of vulnerability) > > So now the questions are what technical topics do we want to be on a pane= l > about? > > My work experience is with QA and for fun I=E2=80=99m building a selenium= scraper > to get some public data from New York City which I will then put into > Postgres and clean and then hopefully combine with other data and then > learn something. > > On Jun 20, 2019, at 9:02 AM, L=C3=A6titia Avrot > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I like the idea and I like it more if it's a panel about a technical > subject. > We've seen a lot of panels about diversity and gender in IT. I'd like to > do a panel on a technical subject with women. We kind of did that last ye= ar > in Paris meetup: https://twitter.com/l_avrot/status/954098531488366592 > > A guy came to the organizer, asking if this was "a diversity thing" and > the organizer answered "No, it's a skill thing". > > Cheers, > > L=C3=A6titia > > Le dim. 16 juin 2019 =C3=A0 04:46, Renee Phillips a > =C3=A9crit : > >> I think it could be a great idea to do a panel! Four or five women on th= e >> panel and a woman moderator? >> >> Goodness knows we have seen enough all male panels. We could have it not >> even be noticeably a woman only panel by the title.... >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 9:17 AM L=C3=A6titia Avrot >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> During a brainstorming session about conf talk ideas with Ilaria, we ha= d >>> this idea: how about having a lot of people (majority of women, but som= e >>> other genders too) on stage to show how diverse and numerous we are ? >>> >>> Who would come ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> L=C3=A6titia >>> >>> Le ven. 17 mai 2019 =C3=A0 07:51, L=C3=A6titia Avrot a >>> =C3=A9crit : >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> What would you think about a talk in Milan about : what is postgres >>>> women, why it matters and what everyone can do about it? >>>> >>>> Anyone interested to do it (with or without me)? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> L=C3=A6titia >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. Please print responsibly.* >>> >> > > -- > *Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. 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Hi Ilaria,

A panel is quite different from a talk a= s :

- there are several people on stage
- there is (normally) no = slide
- a moderator/leader is asking questions to the panel (people on s= tage)
- it lasts around 20 minutes and for the 20-30 minutes that come a= fter, the audience is asking questions

I hope this is helpful.
L=C3=A6titia

Le=C2=A0jeu. 20 juin 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A015:33, Ilaria <ilaria.battiston@gmail.com&g= t; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Just to cl= arify, a panel is something different from a talk, is it? Are we still havi= ng a pgwomen-focussed paper submission as a community?

I use PG for exploratory analysis, if you need= anything, I=E2=80=99m available :)

Ilaria

Am 20.06.2019 um 15:24 schrieb R= enee <rene= e.phillips@gmail.com>:

Yes. It should absolutel= y be a technical topic. There are plenty of places for men to go to hear wh= at it=E2=80=99s like to be a woman in tech. We don=E2=80=99t need to spend = the time of five or six women to keep telling them it=E2=80=99s hard and he= re=E2=80=99s one weird trick we use to make our days easier (argh, I give a= D&I talk, I would never ask anyone to give a D&I talk, it=E2=80=99= s really quite stressful and a lot of vulnerability)=C2=A0

So now the questions are what technical to= pics do we want to be on a panel about?=C2=A0

My work experience is with QA and for fun I=E2=80=99m b= uilding a selenium scraper to get some public data from New York City which= I will then put into Postgres and clean and then hopefully combine with ot= her data and then learn something.=C2=A0

On Jun 2= 0, 2019, at 9:02 AM, L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com> wrote:
<= br>
Hi all= ,

I like the idea and I like it more if it's a panel about a tec= hnical subject.
We've seen a lot of panels about diversity and gende= r in IT. I'd like to do a panel on a technical subject with women. We k= ind of did that last year in Paris meetup:=C2=A0https://twitter.co= m/l_avrot/status/954098531488366592

A guy came to the organ= izer, asking if this was "a diversity thing" and the organizer an= swered "No, it's a skill thing".

Cheers,

L=C3= =A6titia

Le=C2=A0dim. 16 juin 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A004:46, Renee Phillips= <renee.ph= illips@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
I think it could be a great i= dea to do a panel! Four or five women on the panel and a woman moderator?= =C2=A0

Goodness knows we have seen enough all male panel= s. We could have it not even be noticeably a woman only panel by the title.= ...

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 9:17 AM L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com= > wrote:
=
Hi all,

During a brainstorming sess= ion about conf talk ideas with Ilaria, we had this idea: how about having a= lot of people (majority of women, but some other genders too) on stage to = show how diverse and numerous we are ?

Who would come ?

Cheer= s,

L=C3=A6titia

Le=C2=A0ven. 17 mai 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A007:51, L= =C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hi all,=C2= =A0

What would you think about= a talk in Milan about : what is postgres women,=C2=A0 why it matters and w= hat everyone can do about it?=C2=A0

Anyone interested to do it (with or without me)?=C2=A0

Cheers,=C2=A0

L=C3=A6titia



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