Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQdh-0001Cf-68 for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:11:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQdg-0005xF-15 for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:11:32 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQdf-0005x8-Ob for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:11:31 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-x542.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::542]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQdY-0004F0-Sa for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:11:31 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x542.google.com with SMTP id h9so16291122edr.0 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:11:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3ZopF9giyH0UqkCiPo0a4Ii45Nxs/jn+Bj2gLccs+/8=; b=KBTXvEHtZB0kxhBT/FgE0zs9kL/LwG3pl9O1ucNL5nEJJU1D61SLouHli5vlMI6FkC iflpsfWsCucCaJ5Js2sDKN4hQ+sR72HwQfIUXNKl/olUTNR4ASkQ+PHwmvYz51Hrv+c4 alszXrUFdYsP4fcZ4da0LTsgYWCwxau4dqSAhDz9iNFrHrwjAyr9Wm0aupSxyxs9U9r4 4cWnMH11O5+uZBuKTRq3GpbY9sztl53tMgarTX4y+gqDvbVrl7sygiAxGx2F6IfubZoh P/AFjZYKTW2jkmdj5Dt/maD5Qzh1U7qo27WYcW0A9g+aYvw/3jGl2dhmRHOzyBD0Vyum fabw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3ZopF9giyH0UqkCiPo0a4Ii45Nxs/jn+Bj2gLccs+/8=; b=uF2vRhzQfpcRbt0zY7CaolwstUg+hcGzBM1+tdv+gzI63JMjS6YXJoDa4IqfuRAs+W jx9LPn2T+RayBfF2YA1PYOftgr0pGUAvZV+TFQV9nOrTGvUO3QjcVo+LaV28lSoV0jQk H/hTsmnT6U1xXbs/gITyIfWc6G7AlG01+4S7Pj4d41I03ISIzoPLYnQf+mOT04GPXry8 OzlPVENC87THtK8Z5Wp6nhIYfzB4oBMnjEsXQXBI51g4GW+Vb0RYhcmBr+GHM01iacqh T5KaTorUZURJ9sACCaOIAsFGUAh/H08L0vSs7kSyCbU3uU4vnDPuvhTOVdthPKful7D4 98Yg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVciktd83hsfDYKZnW1LwZwpcE8GAvjfhNu2iBQdq+fVbSTwBF6 vCjDAMZOjmI8W/dG5nucr4NfHi4ZeRY78hzITcg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx5QxSynXuuk3almuMGy+1KcIS0QSdQnAjG2OjLsKuZ5wp+6We3gGAzJjC4x7bwGyJoDJwmAgGt3gY1Cmiit64= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:e11a:: with SMTP id gj26mr47081740ejb.95.1560197483447; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:11:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Renee Phillips Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:10:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Postgres Women talk at pgconfeu To: Valeria Kaplan Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A6titia_Avrot?= , pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c7ca42058afdc890" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000c7ca42058afdc890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would add a question about first language (because the assumption of English as default is understandable but there may be some bias in events as a result) On Jun 10, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Valeria Kaplan wrote: Hi L=C3=A6titia and Ilaria / All, Sounds like a great idea. I think maybe it would be even more impactful to do an online survey to see how *actually* diverse we are in numbers? You might have planned this anyway, but here just an idea. You could do a few pools through the Postgres Women Twitter handle for example to ask the community questions: 1. which sex you relate to? (you'll need to think about how to phrase it correctly); 2. where where you born?; 3. where do you live? 4. would you consider yourself having a disability? ...and other diversity questions) and then visualise it in your presentation alongside statistics about IT community as a whole (or whatever stats on IT community you will be able to find. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-eye-opening-statistics-about-minorit= ies-in-tech/ might be useful as a starting point.) I think this will help to see whether PostgreSQL community is reflective of a broader IT groups etc. Of course, it would only be a sample and not everyone is on Twitter etc. However, that will be a relatively painless way to get good number of responses and get an idea what we are dealing with. 8) Would be glad to hear what you think. I'll be in Milano btw. Valeria *Valeria Kaplan*Marketing Director *Data Egret* On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:17 PM L=C3=A6titia Avrot wrote: > Hi all, > > During a brainstorming session about conf talk ideas with Ilaria, we had > this idea: how about having a lot of people (majority of women, but some > other genders too) on stage to show how diverse and numerous we are ? > > Who would come ? > > Cheers, > > L=C3=A6titia > > Le ven. 17 mai 2019 =C3=A0 07:51, L=C3=A6titia Avrot a > =C3=A9crit : > >> Hi all, >> >> What would you think about a talk in Milan about : what is postgres >> women, why it matters and what everyone can do about it? >> >> Anyone interested to do it (with or without me)? >> >> Cheers, >> >> L=C3=A6titia >> >> > > -- > *Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. Please print responsibly.* > --000000000000c7ca42058afdc890 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would add a question about= first language (because the assumption of English as default is understand= able but there may be some bias in events as a result)

On Jun 10, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com> wrote:

Hi L=C3=A6titia and Ilaria / All,

Sound= s like a great idea.=C2=A0
I think maybe it would be even more im= pactful to do an online survey to see how actually diverse we are in= numbers?

You might have planned this anyway, but = here just an idea. You could do a few pools through the Postgres Women Twit= ter handle for example to ask the community questions:
1. which s= ex you relate to? (you'll need to think about how to phrase it correctl= y);=C2=A0
2. where where you born?;=C2=A0
3. where do y= ou live?
4. would you consider yourself having a disability?
...and other diversity questions)=C2=A0
and then visualise = it in your presentation alongside statistics about IT community as a whole = (or whatever stats on IT community you will be able to find.=C2=A0https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-= eye-opening-statistics-about-minorities-in-tech/=C2=A0might be useful a= s a starting point.) I think this will help to see whether PostgreSQL commu= nity is reflective of a broader IT groups etc.=C2=A0
Of course, i= t would only be a sample and not everyone is on Twitter etc. However, that = will be a relatively painless way to get good number of responses and get a= n idea what we are dealing with. 8)=C2=A0

Would be= glad to hear what you think.
I'll be in Milano btw.

Valeria

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Valeria Kaplan
Marketing Director


Data Egret




On Mon, Jun = 10, 2019 at 2:17 PM L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi a= ll,

During a brainstorming session about conf talk i= deas with Ilaria, we had this idea: how about having a lot of people (major= ity of women, but some other genders too) on stage to show how diverse and = numerous we are ?

Who would come ?

Cheers,

L=C3=A6titi= a

Le=C2=A0ven. 17 mai 2019 =C3=A0=C2=A007:51, L=C3=A6titia Avrot <<= a href=3D"mailto:laetitia.avrot@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">laetitia.avrot= @gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hi all,=C2=A0
What would you think about a talk in Milan about := what is postgres women,=C2=A0 why it matters and what everyone can do abou= t it?=C2=A0

Anyone inter= ested to do it (with or without me)?=C2=A0

Cheers,=C2=A0

L=C3=A6titia



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