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From: Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:48:50 +0200
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Subject: Q&A at Postgres Women talk at pgconf.eu
To: pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org
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Hi All,

In light of openness and acceptance within our community I just wanted to
raise an issue that I've seen happen during a Q&A session at the conference
and hear your thoughts.

During a Postgres Women Q&A session at pgconf.eu there was a question from
one of the attendees that I don't think was handled very well. The question
was from a guy who raised, in my opinion, a very valid point about
increasing the number of female speakers at events. He wasn't able to
finish his question as the microphone has been taken from him and as he
wanted to comment further he wasn't given a microphone back.

This actually made me feel a bit uneasy since I feel if we want equality in
the community we must treat any questions people have with respect and
snatching a microphone from them is a lack of basic courtesy that one
expects regardless to the gender, believe etc.

Postgres Women is a fantastic initiative and I think the key is not to act
towards the majority in a way that we wouldn't tolerate as their behaviour
towards minority. This might send a wrong message and actually have an
opposite effect than what we are trying to achieve in the community.

Sincerely,
Valeria


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:37 PM L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.co=
m>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As I'm still learning and not so good at organizing things, I didn't thin=
k
> to take people's e-mail to contact them, so I have no other way than
> sending this invitation here to everyone. We'll get better next time.
>
> Some quick information here :
> - the dinner is sponsor, you just need to take care of your drinks
> - the dinner time is 7:30 PM
> - the restaurant is Ristorante Tagiura (please, find map enclosed)
> - before the dinner, we'll find a place to have a drink only with women
> (we're actively looking for a place)
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> L=C3=A6titia
>
> --
> *Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. Please print responsibly.*
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div>In light of openness and acceptance within our community I just wanted =
to raise an issue that I&#39;ve seen happen during a Q&amp;A session at the=
 conference and hear your thoughts.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>During a=
 Postgres Women Q&amp;A session at <a href=3D"http://pgconf.eu">pgconf.eu</=
a> there was a question from one of the attendees that I don&#39;t think wa=
s handled very well. The question was from a guy who raised, in my opinion,=
 a very valid point about increasing the number of female speakers at event=
s. He wasn&#39;t able to finish his question as the microphone has been tak=
en from him and as he wanted to comment further he wasn&#39;t given a micro=
phone back.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>This actually made me feel a bit=
 uneasy since I feel if we want equality in the community we must treat any=
 questions people have with respect and snatching a microphone from them is=
 a lack of basic courtesy=C2=A0that one expects regardless to the gender, b=
elieve etc.</div><div><br></div><div>Postgres Women is a fantastic initiati=
ve and I think the key is not to act towards the majority in a way that we =
wouldn&#39;t tolerate as their behaviour towards minority. This might send =
a wrong message and actually have an opposite effect than what we are tryin=
g to achieve in the community.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,</d=
iv><div>Valeria</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"=
gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><table cellpadding=3D=
"0" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" style=3D"background-color:initial;backgr=
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x;padding:0px"><tbody></tbody></table></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 6:37 PM L=C3=A6titia Avrot &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:laetitia.avrot@gmail.com">laetitia.avrot@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">H=
i all,<div><br></div><div>As I&#39;m still learning and not so good at orga=
nizing things, I didn&#39;t think to take people&#39;s e-mail to contact th=
em, so I have no other way than sending this invitation here to everyone. W=
e&#39;ll get better next time.<br><br>Some quick information here :<br>- th=
e dinner is sponsor, you just need to take care of your drinks<br>- the din=
ner time is 7:30 PM=C2=A0<br>- the restaurant is=C2=A0Ristorante Tagiura (p=
lease, find map enclosed)</div><div>- before the dinner, we&#39;ll find a p=
lace to have a drink only with women (we&#39;re actively looking for a plac=
e)<br><br>Have a nice day,</div><div><br></div><div>L=C3=A6titia<br clear=
=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><i>Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. Please print responsibl=
y.</i><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>

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