Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQVV-0000y4-Gv for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:03:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQVT-0002e3-0s for pgsql-women@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:03:03 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQVS-0002dv-LG for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:03:02 +0000 Received: from mail-wm1-x344.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::344]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1haQVP-0004AU-8Y for pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:03:02 +0000 Received: by mail-wm1-x344.google.com with SMTP id c6so559306wml.0 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dataegret-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rPTySxavelxmqXjnOpfL+v+SiHkFbtgKk4nvwMIzIfs=; b=HeDJx2rY5+PeAYIv4CcOU6qHIxnOcIPMa0Wmvgc0mDKb9cCyysduqLSFuTuR6maUKK fPEXlCXdQypluOlIZO1OvdykZdE4GgBdnqdrb3/Q9mies0j8FG8elS0AdBcYb178FTkE 4h9/52zXS0OKOID1pvhx/Ij9LhzbMzFE0FAjYByohp3OZliXdPnEnXGoe8Kzfg8ureaB zt4mxLFd6oyygPb42BfQP0FNvDwsskyUhor3fp4szn7K8oDvrucNL41bMPiN+bOtQxgp ifqDC2ypI4yn9NuWQAjSmuiXr1XEU/98t0ci3IY3XbowBgeLdc2T9xnzKu5+hfNeRt2E WU0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rPTySxavelxmqXjnOpfL+v+SiHkFbtgKk4nvwMIzIfs=; b=Z3p84N2Mu/tsPb1/ZhiYtlalS57EujtobOPBA5CVpLSppFyNCW9r7anEga+4DDw1Y7 Zak6dMos7/JbDNIbCVbuHdXkTKeQvmTQXvure297O5S8oBn1YYRTDE3qc8WICamNZcxo uw0N1H3srNqgaxj5OCcv6yIBe93nZrcEAMzwhjj5OVS7FiCg+IBEL0kE7MrlvOwExFYJ UiSLBNo2xL1gF4oDuaKNwIetniiJH42wFJY4vVo6ADTJPz6v6kQ0m7uBinHcMVl2iSaH FrpRHsTdZXv/9ue2Yf0s6Rj36gFuON9X9OOu2YBkzP12yLqxhITqPARSLtjcbcPT/uU3 xDCg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXwOwQv/Ebi1X1s4SkIrjUsASrL/87zNLEkFt/hUp+xPv2izkJ2 scgi5HrmCXlrTzUXesXFXBFefMJE5sxqzdalrtmLnA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxaIhP2x1wfi47dDEdz09lgzvR4AYt78hadHCaRN5ukxV/A3lZmeiWFfrJcSjeZPXTebInOgYGkUcoljXQQXn4= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:cb4b:: with SMTP id v11mr14847021wmj.103.1560196976668; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5314953E-039F-4799-B96F-DBF42B6DA81D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5314953E-039F-4799-B96F-DBF42B6DA81D@gmail.com> From: Valeria Kaplan Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 21:02:45 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Postgres Women talk at pgconfeu To: Ilaria Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?L=C3=A6titia_Avrot?= , pgsql-women@lists.postgresql.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000930996058afdaa3d" List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk --000000000000930996058afdaa3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad it was useful. Shout if you need more thoughts :) On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:39 PM Ilaria wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I really like Valeria=E2=80=99s idea! I=E2=80=99m an analyst, so I=E2=80= =99m a bit biased :) but I > already have some possible ways to present in mind. > > I can start preparing/proposing concrete subjects by the beginning of > July, so there is still time for brainstorming - and channels need to be > considered carefully, it would be nice to target specifically people who > are going to attend PGConf, but of course everyone in the community shoul= d > be involved. > > Have a great day! > Ilaria > > Am 10.06.2019 um 16:07 schrieb Valeria Kaplan : > > Hi L=C3=A6titia and Ilaria / All, > > Sounds like a great idea. > I think maybe it would be even more impactful to do an online survey to > see how *actually* diverse we are in numbers? > > You might have planned this anyway, but here just an idea. You could do a > few pools through the Postgres Women Twitter handle for example to ask th= e > community questions: > 1. which sex you relate to? (you'll need to think about how to phrase it > correctly); > 2. where where you born?; > 3. where do you live? > 4. would you consider yourself having a disability? > ...and other diversity questions) > and then visualise it in your presentation alongside statistics about IT > community as a whole (or whatever stats on IT community you will be able = to > find. > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-eye-opening-statistics-about-minor= ities-in-tech/ might > be useful as a starting point.) I think this will help to see whether > PostgreSQL community is reflective of a broader IT groups etc. > Of course, it would only be a sample and not everyone is on Twitter etc. > However, that will be a relatively painless way to get good number of > responses and get an idea what we are dealing with. 8) > > Would be glad to hear what you think. > I'll be in Milano btw. > > Valeria > > > > *Valeria Kaplan*Marketing Director > > > *Data Egret* > > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:17 PM L=C3=A6titia Avrot > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> During a brainstorming session about conf talk ideas with Ilaria, we had >> this idea: how about having a lot of people (majority of women, but some >> other genders too) on stage to show how diverse and numerous we are ? >> >> Who would come ? >> >> Cheers, >> >> L=C3=A6titia >> >> Le ven. 17 mai 2019 =C3=A0 07:51, L=C3=A6titia Avrot a >> =C3=A9crit : >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> What would you think about a talk in Milan about : what is postgres >>> women, why it matters and what everyone can do about it? >>> >>> Anyone interested to do it (with or without me)? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> L=C3=A6titia >>> >>> >> >> -- >> *Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow on trees. 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Glad it was useful.=C2=A0
Shout if you need more thoug= hts :)




On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:39 PM Ilaria <ilaria.battiston@gmail.com> wrote:=
Hello everyone,

I really like Valeria=E2=80=99s idea! I=E2= =80=99m an analyst, so I=E2=80=99m a bit biased :) but I already have some = possible ways to present in mind.=C2=A0

I can start preparing/proposing concrete subjects by the begi= nning of July, so there is still time for brainstorming - and channels need= to be considered carefully, it would be nice to target specifically people= who are going to attend PGConf, but of course everyone in the community sh= ould be involved.=C2=A0

Ha= ve a great day!
Ilaria

Am 1= 0.06.2019 um 16:07 schrieb Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com>:

Hi L= =C3=A6titia and Ilaria / All,

Sounds like a great = idea.=C2=A0
I think maybe it would be even more impactful to do a= n online survey to see how actually diverse we are in numbers?
=

You might have planned this anyway, but here just an id= ea. You could do a few pools through the Postgres Women Twitter handle for = example to ask the community questions:
1. which sex you relate t= o? (you'll need to think about how to phrase it correctly);=C2=A0
=
2. where where you born?;=C2=A0
3. where do you live?
<= div>4. would you consider yourself having a disability?
...and ot= her diversity questions)=C2=A0
and then visualise it in your pres= entation alongside statistics about IT community as a whole (or whatever st= ats on IT community you will be able to find.=C2=A0https://www.techrepublic.com/article/5-eye-opening-stati= stics-about-minorities-in-tech/=C2=A0might be useful as a starting poin= t.) I think this will help to see whether PostgreSQL community is reflectiv= e of a broader IT groups etc.=C2=A0
Of course, it would only be a= sample and not everyone is on Twitter etc. However, that will be a relativ= ely painless way to get good number of responses and get an idea what we ar= e dealing with. 8)=C2=A0

Would be glad to hear wha= t you think.
I'll be in Milano btw.

<= div>Valeria

= =C2=A0=C2=A0=

Valeria Kaplan
Marketing Director


Data Egret<= /font>




On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:17 PM L=C3=A6titia = Avrot <lae= titia.avrot@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

During= a brainstorming session about conf talk ideas with Ilaria, we had this ide= a: how about having a lot of people (majority of women, but some other gend= ers too) on stage to show how diverse and numerous we are ?

Who woul= d come ?

Cheers,

L=C3=A6titia

Le=C2=A0ven. 17 mai 2019 = =C3=A0=C2=A007:51, L=C3=A6titia Avrot <laetitia.avrot@gmail.com> a =C3=A9crit= =C2=A0:
Hi all,=C2=A0

What w= ould you think about a talk in Milan about : what is postgres women,=C2=A0 = why it matters and what everyone can do about it?=C2=A0

Anyone interested to do it (with or without= me)?=C2=A0

Cheers,=C2= =A0

L=C3=A6titia



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Paper doesn=E2=80=99t grow= on trees. Please print responsibly.
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