X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9861D9DD718 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:54:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71767-01 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:54:22 -0400 (AST) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.86]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BFD9DD6CD for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:54:23 -0400 (AST) Received: from mailgate.vale-housing.co.uk ([194.217.48.34] helo=vale-housing.co.uk) by anchor-post-36.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1EiJnN-000FpH-MX for pgsql-www@postgresql.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:54:26 +0000 Received: from 192.168.1.106 ([192.168.1.106]) by ratbert.vale-housing.co.uk ([192.168.1.106]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:54:25 +0000 From: "Dave Page" To: , Cc: , , Subject: Re: Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2 Message-ID: <009701c5f793$5815758d$6a01a8c0@valehousing.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:54:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: [pgsql-www] Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2 Thread-Index: AcX3k1gVau3BKzC1RaWi4tuAA1MkEw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.081 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.322, MSGID_DOLLARS=2.163, RATWARE_MS_HASH=1.379, RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME=1.861] X-Spam-Score: 3.081 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Archive-Number: 200512/48 X-Sequence-Number: 8989 -----Original Message----- From: "Gavin M. Roy" Sent: 02/12/05 22:29:52 To: "Robert Treat" Cc: "Dave Page", "Josh = Berkus", = "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2 > I mentioned this to Josh off-list but I am concerned about =20 > introducing yet another technology platform (.net) for PgSQL based =20 sites. =20 Yes, I raised this as well, however if only the backend cms is build on = .net or something, and docs are pushed to us in the proper template = format for the website, I'm less concerned.=20 The 2 things I think are essential are: - The user site should be fully integrated with the existing site so it = mirrors etc. - Anything that is actually on the main site is either pushed to us in = template format, or built and integrated in php. Regards, Dave -----Unmodified Original Message----- I mentioned this to Josh off-list but I am concerned about =20 introducing yet another technology platform (.net) for PgSQL based =20 sites. Trying to track down an issue with borg the other day where =20 something was exploited web software wise, (and seeing how much =20 "stuff" was on the vm) I would say we should be concerned with =20 consolidating, not expanding technology dependencies. I know svr2 is =20 getting cleaned up, but this is more of a philosophy thing. Can =20 Alexy's framework that runs the main pgsql site work for techdocs/=20 knowledge base? If not what's wrong with it? Framewerk is nearly =20 mature enough to be used, but I won't have the time for the next 2 =20 months or more to head up or be a primary programmer on something =20 like this. I can however offer help and support on the project if =20 Framewerk is going to be used. If you're interested in knowing where =20 things are at and what's outstanding for evaluation: http://=20 svn.framewerk.org/trac.cgi/wiki/Issues - I am proposing this because =20 unlike moving to .net we already use PHP pretty much everywhere else =20 (other than the existing techdocs). I would also offer that unifying =20 the technology used for all the official pgsql sites would be a very =20 nice thing. Regards, Gavin On Dec 2, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Robert Treat wrote: > On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 16:58, Dave Page wrote: >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Josh Berkus" >> Sent: 02/12/05 21:36:51 >> To: "Robert Treat" >> Cc: "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" >> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Launching PostgreSQL KB Project Mark 2 >> >>> Gee, and you wondered why I thought we need a seperate mailing =20 >>> list? This >>> sort of response is *exactly* why. >> >> Trying desparately not to say "I told you so" I very much doubt =20 >> you have got this response had you raised this here in the first =20 >> place and not later when persuaded to do so. >> >> Now, perhaps we can put the rocky start to one side and get on =20 >> with building a knowledgebase? >> > > Apparently not on this list we can't... > > > Robert Treat > --=20 > Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL > > > ---------------------------(end of =20 > broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq Gavin M. Roy 800 Pound Gorilla gmr@ehpg.net