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From: Dave Page <[email protected]>
To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: gforge
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:37:37 -0000
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Treat [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 26 November 2003 20:16
> To: Dave Page; Marc G. Fournier
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] gforge
> 
> On Wednesday 26 November 2003 11:00, Dave Page wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Mainly because we prefer the traditional mailing lists + 
> CVS approach 
> > like the core server uses. We also have a multilanguage 
> website that 
> > gborg can't do, but then I'm not sure that sf.net can either (for 
> > example).
> >
> 
> I'm pretty sure you could do your multilingual support on sf, 
> though I'd need to look at your code to know for sure. sf 
> gives you a standard user account ish web directory so its 
> pretty flexible; the only big downside that I ever saw was 
> they only give folks access to mysql databases, not 
> postgresql :-( As for standard mailing lists / cvs approach, 
> theres no reason you couldnt approach a sourceforge project 
> the same way.
> 
> BTW - I've been meaning to ask why don't we use the pgadmin 
> code's language approach for the main website?

The design doesn't lend itself to a site the size of www.postgresql.org.
It's all done using php's gettext implementation, which is fine in
itself, but every html page is a mass of gettext calls, one for each
paragraph for maximum flexibility. That's fine on that site where there
are only about 6 pages, but we have around 10000 on www.postgresql.org.

> > Probably better people to ask would be Robert or Chris K-L, as they 
> > actively chose sf.net as an alternative to GBorg.
> >
> 
> I think the original rational for it was that great bridge 
> had shut things down, so things were switched to sourceforge 
> and when gborg came up there was no reason to switch back.  
> 
> speaking from a personal standpoint as someone who is a 
> member of projects on both sites and has looked at the 
> backend code for both sites, I do feel the sourceforge code 
> is superior to the gborg code. 

I'm sure sf.net has a lot more (paid) resources to put into it. From my
pov, I find sf.net to be over complex and confusing, but maybe that's
just me...

> from a project standpoint I 
> think the information is laid out better both per project and 
> on the site as a whole... for example the is no way to search 
> for a specific project on gborg.. another example is the urls 
> for each given project, compare:
> http://gborg.postgresql.org/project/pgweb/projdisplay.php
> vs. http://sourceforge.net/projects/phppgadmin/

You can omit the projdisplay.php, and I'm sure that 'projects' could be
symlinked to 'project'

Regards, Dave.




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