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* tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-21 01:37 Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 4 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-02-21 01:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: [email protected]; +Cc: Chris Ryan <[email protected]> k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd with -core, correct? so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? Chris, is there a central announce list for gborg? something that I can subscribe pgsql-announce to? I notice alot of activity on gborg, but hardly ever seen any announcements ... if ppl knew things were going on over there, might be easier to get ppl to use it without thinking its the black hole of software :( ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-21 01:57 L J Bayuk <[email protected]> parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: L J Bayuk @ 2004-02-21 01:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; Chris Ryan <[email protected]> Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd with -core, correct? > so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? NO - don't quote ME on that. I only said there seem to be updates going in to the Gborg pgtcl project's CVS. If it is to be considered sync'd to core, you need to hear it from Brett or Karl. ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-22 01:41 Brett Schwarz <[email protected]> parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Brett Schwarz @ 2004-02-22 01:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; +Cc: Chris Ryan <[email protected]> --- "Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> wrote: > > k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd > with -core, correct? > so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? > Now I'm confused...are you talking about the existing gborg, or the new gborg? If you are talking about the existing one, then read on... Depends what you consider sync'ed. I applied all of the "relevant patches" from -core to gborg. When Karl first started the project, he changed the structure quite a bit, and updated the lib with the newer Tcl Object interface...so I think 1 or 2 things didn't make sense in the gborg, and I didn't do any of the pgindent stuff... However, I wanted to check it over again real quick before you rip of the -core. I'll probably do this over the weekend. I am not sure if the history was kept or not, when the project was first started...I will have to check that too... > Chris, is there a central announce list for gborg? > something that I can > subscribe pgsql-announce to? I notice alot of > activity on gborg, but > hardly ever seen any announcements ... if ppl knew > things were going on > over there, might be easier to get ppl to use it > without thinking its the > black hole of software :( Yes, that would be great. Also, is it suppose to email the project admins when someone submits a bug/feature? I don't think I ever got an email...that would be a good feature to have... --brett __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-23 13:45 Chris Ryan <[email protected]> parent: Brett Schwarz <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Chris Ryan @ 2004-02-23 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brett Schwarz <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; +Cc: Chris Ryan <[email protected]> --- Brett Schwarz <[email protected]> wrote: -- snip -- > Yes, that would be great. Also, is it suppose to email > the project admins when someone submits a bug/feature? > I don't think I ever got an email...that would be a > good feature to have... > > --brett Brett, You can setup your project to have new bug/features submitted and/or updated sent to one or more addresses. In addition each user can setup to receive messages about bugs from certain projects or updates to specific bugs. As an individual user if you are logged in you can subscribe to indivudal bug update notifications be going to any specific bug and clicking on the "Subscribe" line next to the title of the bug on it's detail page. You can unsubscribe in this fashion as well as you will see and "Unsubscribe" link as approriate. From the main bug list of a project you can click the "Edit Bug Subscriptions" link which will take you to a list of all existing bug notifications you have for the project you are viewing. On this screen you can remove individual entries, subscribe to receive notifications of all new bug submissions, or remove all entries. From a project standpoint you can setup similar notifications as above with the difference of being able to specify any email address and you can have notifications sent out for updates to any bugs on that project not just specific ones. To do this you must go the "Project Admin Area" of your project. You can click on the "Bug Tracker" quick link at the top of the Screen or scroll down looking for the "Bug Manager" section. Here you will see a link "Edit List Notification". This will bring you to a screen that will show you all the existing addresses that are being notified of new submissions and updates. You will also be able to enter in an email address and select if you want that email address to receive New submissions or Updates. NOTE: if you want an email address to receive both submissions and updates you have to place two entries, one for each. If you have any other questions please let me know and I will be happy to answer them. Chris Ryan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-23 13:54 Chris Ryan <[email protected]> parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Chris Ryan @ 2004-02-23 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www Marc, I have been somewhat slacking in this regard. I send a few of the news items through to the announce list but I've only been doing some of the more significant messages. I have been giving this some though on the best way to do this. I came up with the idea that instead of having the news item emails sent directly to the pgsql-www list I could have a cron that would send a digest like version of the news items from the past days. This would help solve the problem we had last time with duplicate news items being sent out on occassions. In addition it would alleviate my discomfort with the possibility of "spamming" the announce if there were a particulary busy day. Any thoughts? Chris Ryan --- "Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> wrote: > > k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd with -core, > correct? > so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? > > Chris, is there a central announce list for gborg? something that I > can > subscribe pgsql-announce to? I notice alot of activity on gborg, but > hardly ever seen any announcements ... if ppl knew things were going > on > over there, might be easier to get ppl to use it without thinking its > the > black hole of software :( > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services > (http://www.hub.org) > Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-23 15:26 Robert Treat <[email protected]> parent: Chris Ryan <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Robert Treat @ 2004-02-23 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chris Ryan <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; pgsql-www FWIW I try to check gborg every week before I write up the weekly news and include any announcements in the "product news" section (though I missed it last week :-\ ). I started this originally since the weekly news gets posted to places beyond announce, but is this sufficient enough coverage for announce as well? Marc, do you see the problem being that projects don't make enough announcements of their activity or that people don't see the announcements that are made? I tend to think it's the former more so than the latter. As an aside I plan on mentioning the rss feed in this week weekly news, Chris, perhaps in the "latest news" heading you can add a link for "rss". Robert Treat On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 08:54, Chris Ryan wrote: > Marc, > > I have been somewhat slacking in this regard. I send a few of the > news items through to the announce list but I've only been doing some > of the more significant messages. I have been giving this some though > on the best way to do this. > > I came up with the idea that instead of having the news item emails > sent directly to the pgsql-www list I could have a cron that would send > a digest like version of the news items from the past days. This would > help solve the problem we had last time with duplicate news items being > sent out on occassions. In addition it would alleviate my discomfort > with the possibility of "spamming" the announce if there were a > particulary busy day. > > Any thoughts? > > Chris Ryan > > > --- "Marc G. Fournier" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd with -core, > > correct? > > so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? > > > > Chris, is there a central announce list for gborg? something that I > > can > > subscribe pgsql-announce to? I notice alot of activity on gborg, but > > hardly ever seen any announcements ... if ppl knew things were going > > on > > over there, might be easier to get ppl to use it without thinking its > > the > > black hole of software :( > > > > ---- > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services > > (http://www.hub.org) > > Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: > 7615664 > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. > http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [email protected]) -- Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-23 15:35 Chris Ryan <[email protected]> parent: Robert Treat <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Chris Ryan @ 2004-02-23 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; pgsql-www > > As an aside I plan on mentioning the rss feed in this week weekly > news, > Chris, perhaps in the "latest news" heading you can add a link for > "rss". > > Robert Treat > That's a good idea, I hadn't though about doing that. I was planning on adding a link somewhere as well about the rss news link however I am unsure what would be best location/presentation for such an item. Does anyone have any ?professional/experienced? suggestions as to what the best method would be? Chris Ryan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-23 16:02 Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Eisentraut @ 2004-02-23 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; [email protected]; +Cc: Chris Ryan <[email protected]> Marc G. Fournier wrote: > k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd with -core, > correct? so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? Note, if you move libpgtcl elsewhere, you will also have to take pgtclsh and pgtksh with it. Currently, I don't see these programs in the pgtcl project on gborg. Also, don't forget to move the documentation this time. ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg @ 2004-02-23 16:16 Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> parent: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-02-23 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; +Cc: [email protected]; Chris Ryan <[email protected]> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > k, so ... from what LJ states, gborg is now sync'd with -core, > > correct? so I can do a remove of it and nothing will be lost? > > Note, if you move libpgtcl elsewhere, you will also have to take pgtclsh > and pgtksh with it. Currently, I don't see these programs in the pgtcl > project on gborg. Also, don't forget to move the documentation this > time. Good points, thanks ... LJ, any chance you'd be willing to 'maintain' these on gborg? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg, pgtclsh @ 2004-02-24 02:47 L J Bayuk <[email protected]> parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: L J Bayuk @ 2004-02-24 02:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Chris Ryan <[email protected]> Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > > Note, if you move libpgtcl elsewhere, you will also have to take pgtclsh > > and pgtksh with it. Currently, I don't see these programs in the pgtcl > > project on gborg. Also, don't forget to move the documentation this > > time. > > Good points, thanks ... LJ, any chance you'd be willing to 'maintain' > these on gborg? Yes and no. I do have pgtclsh and pgwish (which I renamed from pgtksh) in my project. They build and test OK, but I moved them to an "extra" directory, labeled them as "deprecated", and do not provide auto-configure. Also, I won't include support for building them on Windows. In my opinion, it's so much better to use dynamic package loading with Tcl, that it makes no sense to link a specific extension into a Tcl shell anymore. "package require Pgtcl" is the way to go. But if anyone really needs the pg* shells, they can edit a few lines in the Makefile and build them. However... shortly after I created a new project on Gborg for my version of the Tcl interface, the original Gborg pgtcl project started getting updates. I don't know what Brett's plans are, but I'm in a quandary about what to do. I'm very close to finishing up my version, including the new reference manual and Windows binary release, but I've held off uploading or releasing anything. I didn't count on forking an active project, and I don't want to do the wrong thing. Advice? ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: tcl on gborg, pgtclsh @ 2004-02-25 05:32 Brett Schwarz <[email protected]> parent: L J Bayuk <[email protected]> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Brett Schwarz @ 2004-02-25 05:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: L J Bayuk <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Chris Ryan <[email protected]> --- L J Bayuk <[email protected]> wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: <snip> > > Good points, thanks ... LJ, any chance you'd be > willing to 'maintain' > > these on gborg? > > Yes and no. > > I do have pgtclsh and pgwish (which I renamed from > pgtksh) in my project. > They build and test OK, but I moved them to an > "extra" directory, labeled > them as "deprecated", and do not provide > auto-configure. Also, I won't > include support for building them on Windows. In my > opinion, it's so much > better to use dynamic package loading with Tcl, that > it makes no sense to > link a specific extension into a Tcl shell anymore. > "package require > Pgtcl" is the way to go. But if anyone really needs > the pg* shells, they > can edit a few lines in the Makefile and build them. > I agree with the above assessment about pgtclsh and pgtksh > However... shortly after I created a new project on > Gborg for my version of > the Tcl interface, the original Gborg pgtcl project > started getting > updates. I don't know what Brett's plans are, but My plans are to keep working on pgtcl. Not sure if this answers your question or not...if you want me to expand upon that, then let me know. --brett __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ^ permalink raw reply [nested|flat] 11+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2004-02-25 05:32 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 11+ messages (download: mbox mbox.gz follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2004-02-21 01:37 tcl on gborg Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 2004-02-21 01:57 ` L J Bayuk <[email protected]> 2004-02-22 01:41 ` Brett Schwarz <[email protected]> 2004-02-23 13:45 ` Chris Ryan <[email protected]> 2004-02-23 13:54 ` Chris Ryan <[email protected]> 2004-02-23 15:26 ` Robert Treat <[email protected]> 2004-02-23 15:35 ` Chris Ryan <[email protected]> 2004-02-23 16:02 ` Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> 2004-02-23 16:16 ` Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]> 2004-02-24 02:47 ` Re: tcl on gborg, pgtclsh L J Bayuk <[email protected]> 2004-02-25 05:32 ` Re: tcl on gborg, pgtclsh Brett Schwarz <[email protected]>
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