X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0652CD1C95E for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:54:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72242-07 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:54:30 -0400 (AST) Received: from bramble.mmrd.com (unknown [65.217.53.66]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4111DD1D1F2 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:54:27 -0400 (AST) Received: from thorn.mmrd.com (thorn.mmrd.com [172.25.10.100]) by bramble.mmrd.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i29LQ7cM030437; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:26:07 -0500 Received: from gnvex001.mmrd.com (gnvex001.mmrd.com [192.168.3.55]) by thorn.mmrd.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i29LrBl21579; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:53:12 -0500 Received: from camel.mmrd.com ([172.25.5.213]) by gnvex001.mmrd.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id FVMAWYVS; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:53:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Update on 'portal' changes From: Robert Treat To: Alexey Borzov Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <404E1978.9080603@cs.msu.su> References: <03AF4E498C591348A42FC93DEA9661B889F5D3@mail.vale-housing.co.uk> <404CAE83.8 0104@cs.msu.su> <1078783781.22416.251.camel@camel> <1078788127.22416.327.camel@camel> <404DD596.3040702@cs.msu.su> <1078844674.2753.348.camel@camel> <404E1978.9080603@cs.msu.su> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 09 Mar 2004 16:53:10 -0500 Message-Id: <1078869190.2753.420.camel@camel> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200403/89 X-Sequence-Number: 3905 On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 14:22, Alexey Borzov wrote: > Hi! > > Robert Treat wrote: > >>>I guess we're still trying to decide if he can save us valuable time :-) > >> > >>Ahem. I'd learn that my work is not needed *now* rather than later, when > >> I've spent more time on it... > > > > No, the work is needed now, and quite frankly I have more faith that > > you'll get it done than I do that we will, at least anytime soon. It's > > just that we keep going round and round on the whole "working together" > > thing... > > Seems like you are bent on teaching me about how Open Source works once again... > I am almost as stubborn a teacher as those students who refuse to learn :-) > I already learned that this "working together" thing requires *mutual* desire > to, uhm, work together. If such a desire is not found on one side, then this > side can come up with really inventive excuses. > > Consider: Marc had some disagreements with me, too. But I already have a > development server set up at postgresql.org domain. > > On the other hand *you* write "I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to giving you > (Alexy) cvs commit privileges except that you have a tendency to fly off the > handle that makes me a little bit nervous..." > On the same hand... do you think Marc makes his decisions in a vacuum? > Are you *this* afraid of me defacing postgresql.org?.. ;] > not really... after all that's the point of CVS isn't it? > > a similar issue came up on interfaces, with libtcl. A new guy > > had a bunch of patches he wanted to submit but the project maintainers > > had been idle for awhile, so he wanted to take over the project. The > > admins stated they wanted to stay on, so he forked the project... all > > bad imho. ISTM that when your new to a project, you should assume that > > you don't know as much as folks that are currently running things. > > Oh, yeah. Reading the current traffic I got the impression that the folks who > are running things know as little as myself. What's up with techdocs? What is > this PGFoundry thing? Why is search broken? ;] > And some people want us to be even *more* segregated... Robert Treat -- Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL