X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95058D1CAB1 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:08:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62302-06 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:08:38 -0300 (ADT) Received: from bramble.mmrd.com (unknown [65.217.53.66]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12EDD1CAA1 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:08:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from thorn.mmrd.com (thorn.mmrd.com [172.25.10.100]) by bramble.mmrd.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i3TDF0cM012809; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:15:00 -0400 Received: from gnvex001.mmrd.com (gnvex001.mmrd.com [192.168.3.55]) by thorn.mmrd.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3TD8bl08533; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:08:38 -0400 Received: from camel.mmrd.com ([172.25.5.213]) by gnvex001.mmrd.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id JNFVFC26; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:08:36 -0400 Subject: Re: What can we learn from MySQL? From: Robert Treat To: Bruno Wolff III Cc: Greg Sabino Mullane , pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <20040429044848.GA22881@wolff.to> References: <20040429044848.GA22881@wolff.to> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 29 Apr 2004 09:08:37 -0400 Message-Id: <1083244117.14686.146.camel@camel> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/293 X-Sequence-Number: 4265 On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 00:48, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 01:30:23 -0000, > Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: > > I care. More market share equals more jobs, which equals more people > > working on the project. It's all well and good to treat Postgres as > > an academic exercise, but at some point the work needs to be applied > > to real world stuff. We are competing with real-world, commercial > > projects right now, and the success of how well we do will directly > > impact this project. Do you think that Red Hat will continue to employ > > Tom Lane if Postgres fades away into a footnote and something else > > becomes the database of choice for Red Hat? Do you realize that every > > time a company chooses us, jobs are created for people who use, > > test, and even develop PostgreSQL? > > And more support questions get asked taking time away from development. > For companies the net balance is probably in postgres' favor on average. > However, getting individuals to use postgres who have no background > in databases may be a net minus. Hopefully that won't happen. It will > be interesting to see what happens to the support lists after the > windows port is available. > Which is one of the reasons that I think chasing my$ql's market is the wrong way to go. We need to be looking for oracle/db2 converts... or at the least informix/progress/m$ or other 2nd tier databases that we are most likely already superior too. Robert Treat -- Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL