X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2983A4BD6 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:32:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08967-04 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:32:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bramble.mmrd.com (bramble.mmrd.com [65.217.53.66]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E433A4B45 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:32:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from thorn.mmrd.com (thorn.mmrd.com [172.25.10.100]) by bramble.mmrd.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iAJHc4BW014741; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:38:04 -0500 Received: from gnvex001.mmrd.com (gnvex001.mmrd.com [10.225.10.110]) by thorn.mmrd.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iAJIW1m13746; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:32:01 -0500 Received: from camel.mmrd.com ([172.25.5.213]) by gnvex001.mmrd.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id XBG2QHGJ; Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:31:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Vote on Omar Design From: Robert Treat To: "Joshua D. Drake" Cc: Josh Berkus , pgsql-www@postgresql.org In-Reply-To: <419E2220.4080208@commandprompt.com> References: <200411181953.10646.josh@agliodbs.com> <1100882015.389.98.camel@camel> <419E2220.4080208@commandprompt.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 19 Nov 2004 13:32:00 -0500 Message-Id: <1100889121.388.103.camel@camel> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200411/251 X-Sequence-Number: 5982 On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:41, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Why do I feel I am in the middle of some political power grab? Omar has > > been submitting patches which are being reviewed and getting committed > > so things seem ok there. I have already laid out a case for problems in > > Lukacz's design that I don't see anyone interested in addressing, but by > > the same token I still have not seen a "stretchy" version of Omar's > > design which we have said we need to see before we can swap. These calls > > for voting are just hand-waving IMHO. > > I don't think they are hand-waving. I think they are let's get off our > butts and get a modern, usable design in place. > Are you saying that Lukacz design isn't an improvement? > I also don't think it has anything to do with what people think is or > isn't going on in terms of hard work as much as a want to have a new > website design in place before 8.0. > We already have a new design. > Basically, all the designs that have been presented are light years (at > least the versions I have seen) past what the community has now. They > may not be perfect, but so what? Let's get something pleasant to look at > in place. > Voting to swap designs (yet again) has nothing to do getting something new in place. Robert Treat -- Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL