Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:47:30 -0300
From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>,
	Andrew Sullivan <ajs@crankycanuck.ca>
cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: what is up with the PG mailing lists?
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- --On Thursday, November 01, 2007 16:30:13 +0100 Magnus Hagander 
<magnus@hagander.net> wrote:

> There's a difference between acceptable delay and what we're often
> getting. Sure, SMTP should have latency. But a modern SMTP system
> shouldn't take hours to deliver an email.

Well, when  you can guarantee that the network connections between any relay 
server from the originator to the recipient is 100% up 100% of the time ... and 
that the mail server at each of the relays is processing properly 100% of the 
time ... and that there are no network delay issues at any one of the dozen or 
so routers, and ... then talk to me ...


> Sure. But I can tell you that *every single time* I've looked at
> latencies, the problem has been at postgresql.org or hub.org. And in my
> own case, there is just one relay on the way, usually with a latency of
> <5 seconds.

Wow, I didn't know you were in Panama ... I have about 12 routers I go through 
from here, creating at least 12 failure points right there ... you being on the 
same network definitely should reduce your latency, we should look into that 
... what is your IP, so that I can confirm that from our end, we are seeing you 
as being 1 router away also ... maybe bad routing?


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Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email . scrappy@hub.org                              MSN . scrappy@hub.org
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