Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B66650E93 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:27:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08010-10 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:27:30 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2B4650E8F for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:27:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m63HTWsF004157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:29:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Proposal to remove some mailing lists From: "Joshua D. Drake" To: Robert Treat Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org, rod@iol.ie In-Reply-To: <200807031302.16464.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> References: <200807021849.03869.peter_e@gmx.net> <200807031146.06945.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> <1215100630.6936.11.camel@jd-laptop> <200807031302.16464.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:27:41 -0700 Message-Id: <1215106061.6936.26.camel@jd-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200807/20 X-Sequence-Number: 15450 On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:02 -0400, Robert Treat wrote: > On Thursday 03 July 2008 11:57:10 Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Except that General is an extremely active list and may cause those > > subscribed to pgsql-php to unsubscribe. Topic specific lists are good. > > > > If we want to get rid of pgsql-php lets do it for something at least > > directional, say pgsql-webdev a list dedicated to web developers using > > PostgreSQL. > > > > This presumes one only uses php for web development... It does? I was assuming that we would have rails, drupal, catalyst etc... all asked there. > really it can be used > for scripting and gui applications as well. Heck, I even heard of some > company trying to use it for database procedural work. > > More on point, why would you seperate web developer questions from other > questions? And how? Not being able to connect to postgres from a webserver is > pretty much the same issue as not connecting from anything else. Or what > about someone using dbd:pg from a script, vs. someone using it to write a > cgi? > > *shrug* > How do I do X with ORM Y and why does PostgreSQL react with Z. People on general may or may not care. People on wwwdev may. > I'm subscribed to both, so it doesnt affect me much, but I don't see much > benefit to having that list as it stands now (and the traffic is pretty low > anyway) I am not arguing that we should keep pgsql-php as much as the idea of dumping people on to general which imo is abused way to much as it is. Joshua D. Drake