Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C91633EC7 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:46:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79861-05 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:46:20 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5203633DD1 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:46:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2I0r3Uq023514 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:53:04 -0700 Subject: Re: List Message Footer From: "Joshua D. Drake" Reply-To: jd@commandprompt.com To: "Marc G. Fournier" Cc: Alvaro Herrera , David Blewett , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" In-Reply-To: <20090317213412.Y97234@hub.org> References: <9d1f8d830903170549q6eeef19ex3bc3db291095e7e1@mail.gmail.com> <20090317203320.T97234@hub.org> <20090318002127.GO4202@alvh.no-ip.org> <20090317212605.E97234@hub.org> <20090318002902.GQ4202@alvh.no-ip.org> <20090317213412.Y97234@hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:46:15 -0700 Message-Id: <1237337175.9507.228.camel@jd-laptop.pragmaticzealot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:53:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200903/121 X-Sequence-Number: 16775 On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 21:35 -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> > >> following the rest of the thread, I got the feel that nobody really likes > >> the idea ... especially since the information is already part of the > >> message headers ... > > > > Well, Tom doesn't like it, Magnus doesn't either, I don't like it ... > > but the unwashed masses? I'm not so sure. > > I'm flexible on it ... not sure what it gains since the information is > already present ... The information isn't already present. That is the problem. Please do not be fooled by the ridiculous suggestion that people should, "view source" or "expand all headers". We started down this path of hacking together our infrastructure based on msgids in the first place. Let's at least make it easy for people. (commit fest pages, searching for msgid via the archive search box etc). The msgid has basically become the community PRIMARY KEY :P Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997