Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1A863381D for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:08:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89674-03 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:08:18 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com (host-159.commandprompt.net [207.173.203.159]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BA16335AF for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:08:17 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (or-69-34-217-90.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.217.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by lists.commandprompt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3GJFGhs001677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:15:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Archives policy From: "Joshua D. Drake" Reply-To: jd@commandprompt.com To: Tom Lane Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Alvaro Herrera , Dave Page , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL www In-Reply-To: <27966.1239908638@sss.pgh.pa.us> References: <16454.1239890476@sss.pgh.pa.us> <200904161454.n3GEsxm27869@momjian.us> <937d27e10904160808w21a2ebbcs57136807df000680@mail.gmail.com> <20090416151427.GW7709@alvh.no-ip.org> <937d27e10904160827r19c50f2fg79a552fdaae96836@mail.gmail.com> <20090416135324.U84471@hub.org> <20090416165800.GY7709@alvh.no-ip.org> <20090416155223.N84471@hub.org> <27966.1239908638@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:07:59 -0700 Message-Id: <1239908879.7840.294.camel@jd-laptop.pragmaticzealot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (lists.commandprompt.com [207.173.203.159]); Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:15:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=none X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200904/90 X-Sequence-Number: 16957 On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 15:03 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > "Marc G. Fournier" writes: > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > >> (and I don't think we're going to attempt to delete pornographic > >> messages posted months ago -- if anything of the sort happens, action is > >> going to be taken pretty hastily). > > > Agreed ... there isn't any reason why someone 'internally' doesn't notice > > it from jus scanning the lists ... > > I think by far the most likely problem scenario is that someone claims > to hold copyright on something-or-other in an old message and files a > DMCA takedown notice against it. AFAICT the standard of proof in such > cases is "guilty until proven innocent", so we'd probably have to cave > rather than argue about it. How are the copyright laws in Canada these > days? I think what we really need to do is stop playing attorney and ask one what our exposure is. I will contact SFLC. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > regards, tom lane > -- PostgreSQL - XMPP: jdrake@jabber.postgresql.org Consulting, Development, Support, Training 503-667-4564 - http://www.commandprompt.com/ The PostgreSQL Company, serving since 1997