Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([2a02:16a8:dc51::56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1g8VmT-0001UN-Eh for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:28:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1g8VmQ-000626-Ka for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:28:54 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1g8VmQ-00061x-Bt for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:28:54 +0000 Received: from meldrar.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::31]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1g8VmO-0004u9-5R for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:28:53 +0000 Received: from pool-96-246-147-25.nycmny.fios.verizon.net ([96.246.147.25] helo=Ph33r-Retina.home) by meldrar.postgresql.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1g8VmJ-0003TB-Nr; Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:28:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Postgres 11 release notes To: Amit Langote , Alvaro Herrera Cc: Bruce Momjian , Michael Banck , PostgreSQL-development References: <20180927142407.uco4e7s5qciqrhnu@alvherre.pgsql> <87cf0282-cee4-c651-0bb7-dbbc2bbfa75b@lab.ntt.co.jp> From: "Jonathan S. 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Katz" To: Amit Langote , Alvaro Herrera Cc: Bruce Momjian , Michael Banck , PostgreSQL-development Message-ID: <1f5b2e66-7ba8-98ec-c06a-aee9ff33f050@postgresql.org> Subject: Re: Postgres 11 release notes References: <20180927142407.uco4e7s5qciqrhnu@alvherre.pgsql> <87cf0282-cee4-c651-0bb7-dbbc2bbfa75b@lab.ntt.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <87cf0282-cee4-c651-0bb7-dbbc2bbfa75b@lab.ntt.co.jp> --mIuihuCvcisAEi9RHZPeCKj4yhwU53Qcx Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------88D4927CC060D869A24C9D83" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------88D4927CC060D869A24C9D83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/27/18 9:21 PM, Amit Langote wrote: > On 2018/09/27 23:24, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >> On 2018-Sep-27, Amit Langote wrote: >> >>> Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, but the following of your proposed tex= t >>> needs to be updated a bit: >>> >>> + >>> + >>> + Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not= match a >>> + partition key >>> + >>> + >>> >>> I think "does not match a partition key" is not accurate. Descriptio= n of >>> default partitions further below in the release notes says this: >>> >>> "The default partition can store rows that don't match any of the oth= er >>> defined partitions, and is searched accordingly." >>> >>> So, we could perhaps write it as: >>> >>> Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not match any= of >>> the remaining partitions >> >> Yeah, I agree that "a partition key" is not the right term to use ther= e >> (and that term is used in the press release text also). However I don= 't >> think "remaining" is the right word there either, because it sounds as= >> if you're removing something. >> >> For the Spanish translation of the press release, we ended up using th= e >> equivalent of "for the data that does not match any other partition". >=20 > Yeah, "any other partition" is what the existing description uses too, = so: >=20 > Having a "default" partition for storing data that does not match any > other partition Sorry for the slow turnaround on this. Excellent suggestion. I have updated the patches, please see attached. 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