X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1CFD1D80C; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44056-09; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:51:19 -0400 (AST) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (unknown [207.106.42.251]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B90D1C976; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:51:14 -0400 (AST) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id hAIEp3O02435; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200311181451.hAIEp3O02435@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: Release cycle length In-Reply-To: <20031118002930.U731@ganymede.hub.org> To: "Marc G. Fournier" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:51:03 -0500 (EST) Cc: Peter Eisentraut , Neil Conway , "Matthew T. O'Connor" , Christopher Kings-Lynne , PostgreSQL Development X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL108 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200311/976 X-Sequence-Number: 47264 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > 0. As you say, make it known to the public. Have people test their > > in-development applications using a beta. > > and how do you propose we do that? I think this is the hard part ... > other then the first beta, I post a note out to -announce and -general > that the beta's have been tag'd and bundled for download ... I know Sean > does up a 'devel' port for FreeBSD, but I don't believe any of the RPM/deb > maintainers do anything until the final release ... > > > 1. Start platform testing on day 1 of beta. Last minute fixes for AIX > > or UnixWare are really becoming old jokes. > > then each beta will have to be "re-certified" for that beta, up until > release ... doable, but I don't think you'll find many that will bother > until we are close to release ... > > > 2. Have a complete account of the changes available at the start of beta, > > so people know what to test. > > Bruce, when do you do your initial HISTORY file? Something to move to the > start of beta, if not? I see beta starting on: revision 1.277 date: 2003/08/04 22:30:30; author: pgsql; state: Exp; lines: +3 -3 change tag to 7.4beta1 and update the Copyright to 2003 Guess what folks? We are now in Beta!! and 7.4 HISTORY updated on: revision 1.196 date: 2003/08/03 23:26:05; author: momjian; state: Exp; lines: +324 -26 Update HISTORY file for 7.4. so the HISTORY file was updated the day before beta started. I haven't always been good about this, but I am now. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073