X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869ABD1B52D for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:16:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95671-05 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:16:22 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04D7D1C949 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:16:20 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1FDAC349D6; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:13:52 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E18347C8; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:13:52 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:13:52 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: scrappy@ganymede.hub.org To: Andrew Dunstan Cc: Postgresql Hackers Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Release cycle length In-Reply-To: <3FBA6999.9030906@dunslane.net> Message-ID: <20031118151211.U731@ganymede.hub.org> References: <87smkmgyn7.fsf@mailbox.samurai.com> <20031117233828.Y731@ganymede.hub.org> <200311180942.31093.josh@agliodbs.com> <3FBA6999.9030906@dunslane.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200311/999 X-Sequence-Number: 47287 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > >Guys, > > > >I agree with Neil ... it's not the length of the development part of the > >cycle, it's the length of the beta testing. > > > >I do think an online bug tracker (bugzilla or whatever) would help. I also > >think that having a person in charge of "testing" would help as well ... no > >biggie, just someone whose duty it is to e-mail people in the community and > >ask about the results of testing, especially on the more obscure ports. I > >think a few e-mail reminders would do a *lot* to speed things up. But I'm > >not volunteering for this job; managing the release PR is "herding cats" > >enough! > > > > Maybe some sort of automated distributed build farm would be a good > idea. Check out http://build.samba.org/about.html to see how samba does > it (much lighter than the Mozilla tinderbox approach). > > We wouldn't need to be as intensive as they appear to be - maybe a once > or twice a day download and test run would do the trick, but it could > pick up lots of breakage fairly quickly. > > That is not to say that more intensive testing isn't also needed on > occasion. Check the archives on this, as its been hashed out already once at least ... I think the big issue/problem is that nobody seems able (or wants) to come up with a script that could be setup in cron on machines to do this ... something simple that would dump the output to a log file and, if regression tests failed, email'd the machine owner that it needs to be checked would do, I would think ...