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From: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
To: Ricardo Ryoiti S. Junior <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
Cc: Robert Treat <[email protected]>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <[email protected]>
Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FTP Mirrors (was Re: Rewriting the website)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:07:54 -0400 (AST)
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In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.58.0401142109040.896@qwerty>
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I have nothing against making that change on the mail server, should have
thought of that long ago, but, then again, nobody else has either ...

This is going to involve a massive update on all the mirrors, since
effectively everything will be moving at once ... is this something
everyone agrees should happen, before I do it?

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Ricardo Ryoiti S. Junior wrote:

> 	Hi,
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>
> > I think the directory structure should mirror exactly
> > ftp.postgresql.org, so I can go to ftp.xx.postgresql.org and find the
> > same things in the same places.  If someone wants to mirror with
> > arbitrary directory structure, they can do that, but since you're going
> > to have to go through the web page anyway they don't have to carry the
> > postgresql.org domain at all.
>
> > Right now, virtually no mirrors follow that rule.  Is it so hard to set
> > up virtual hosts on ftp servers?
>
> 	Regardless of virtualhosts, I think that ftp.postgresql.org's own
> FTP server should be structured like /pub/PostgreSQL/v7.4.1... That's how
> our mirror is setup and I believe that's the cleanest way to have more
> than one mirror in the same server. This is also a good practice, since
> not all (including ours) ftp daemons support virtual hosts.
>
> 	If we had all directories directly after /pub, there would be more
> than 30 subdirectories, all mixed up: NetBSD, PostgreSQL, etc. Thus,
> setting our mirror just like PostgreSQL's, without virtualhost, would be
> very confusing for our clients.
>
> 	I agree that every mirror should use the same directory structure,
> but asking everyone to place everything directly after /pub or setting up
> virtualhosts doesn't seem to be plausible, mainly because there're a lot
> of mirrors out there.
>
> 	So I think that the easiest (and cleanest) way is to change
> postgresql's ftp to /pub/postgresql, asking new and current mirrors to
> adopt that approach. It's much easier than asking for virtualhosts.  Not
> just because I wouldn't have to change my setup :) but also because many
> projects with mirrors do that successfully.
> 	Or, at least a /pub/postgresql link to the actual mirror directory
> could be used...
>
> 	[]s
> 	Ricardo.
>

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Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
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