X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ED9D1DA9B; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 15:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 65751-02; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:06:50 -0400 (AST) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (u46n208.hfx.eastlink.ca [24.222.46.208]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22DCD1B4A7; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:06:46 -0400 (AST) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F06393C3BC; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:03:52 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78473C3BB; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:03:52 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 11:03:52 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: scrappy@ganymede.hub.org To: Alexey Borzov Cc: Dave Page , Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai , "Marc G. Fournier" , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Requirements for updated site In-Reply-To: <4007DB0B.50903@cs.msu.su> Message-ID: <20040116105054.U45512@ganymede.hub.org> References: <03AF4E498C591348A42FC93DEA9661B87204A3@mail.vale-housing.co.uk> <4007DB0B.50903@cs.msu.su> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200401/138 X-Sequence-Number: 3377 On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Alexey Borzov wrote: > Now, what happens when a *new* visitor comes to the website? Should > *his* eyes be focused on main content? No, first thing he should > understand is "what is this site about" and "what is it basic > structure". The current layout does not help this at all. At least new visitors to the current site don't leave cross-eyed ... I give that a big check over what you've proposed ... > Then the logo must direct attention to the main navigation structure. > The main navigation structure is bad, too: the letters are small (OK in > IE, but *small* in Mozilla, both under Windows and Linux) and not > contrast enough. I run Mozilla under FreeBSD, and find the site perfectly readable as it is ... > The navigation menus on the left and right do not fit into the screen in > any resolution. What's worse, it is impossible to see even the headers > of the ones at the bottom, i.e. 'gborg' and 'international'! Huh? What resolution are you running? I have a laptop at home that I loaded it up to last night and got the 'gray borders' on either side ... > These were the issues I tried to address in my mock-up. And at least it > allows me to get overview of the whole site without need to scroll @ > 1024x768 (this is the most common resolution now). I run higher resolution on my desktop then laptop, and laptop is at home, but up/down scroll doesn't bother me, and on neither my laptop or desktop do I have to scroll left/right ... in fact, on my desktop at 1600x1200, the following sites all require me to still scroll up/down: http://www.mozilla.org - menu on left, 'sub menu' across the top right http://www.kde.org - menu on both sides, 'sub menu' across the top right http://www.freebsd.org - menu on both sides, 'sub menu' across the top right http://www.gimp.org - menu on left side http://www.redhat.com - three frames down the middle, menu across the top http://www.debian.org - menu on left side and across the top in all 6 above cases, on a 1600x1200 resolution screen, using Mozilla 1.6b with default fonts, I have to scroll up and down, so it seems pretty common ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664