X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE35D1B4C9 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:38:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39117-06 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:38:26 -0400 (AST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93C6D1B4B5 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 09:38:22 -0400 (AST) Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4BA3D28; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 08:38:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 08:38:24 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org To: Alexey Borzov Cc: David Costa , pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Subject: Re: PHP/Postgresql Advocacy In-Reply-To: <402DE090.50103@cs.msu.su> Message-ID: <20040214083710.D49113@xeon.unixathome.org> References: <8422AA0A-5DAB-11D8-99A9-000A95EB456A@dotgeek.org> <402DE090.50103@cs.msu.su> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200402/126 X-Sequence-Number: 3697 On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, Alexey Borzov wrote: > I think that the most urgent thing in PostgreSQL advocacy is the update of its > web presence. Right now all the advocacy ends as soon as someone clicks on the > link and sees the abomination that is postgresql.org > > I am already working on the changes to website, just can't get any comments from > the people who should (supposedly) be more interested in it than myself. > > If you are interested in helping, too, then here's how: > 1) There is a well-hidden closed list for website development: pgsql-www. You > can send a subscription request to it. If you pester the important people long > enough on more public mailing lists (like here), your subscripion will be > approved quite fast. > 2) There is a module on gborg, it is called pgweb and contains most of the code > for the website. Of course, database schema is conveniently hidden, but if you > pester the important people long enough, you can have it. > 3) Consult the archives for pgsql-www for the pointers on the things already > done and that still need to be done. Comment on them. > > The most needed thing right now IMO is a professional looking design for the > postgresql.org website. As Marc told me, the current one was done by his two > year old child using crayons. Alex: What you say is not as important as how you say it. Using the insults above will encourage support.