X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E828D1E92D; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:49:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87959-10; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:49:58 -0400 (AST) Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server228.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.228]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84F2D1E952; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:49:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from [63.195.55.98] (HELO 192.168.1.29) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.2) with ESMTP id 4515286; Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:51:04 -0800 From: Josh Berkus Reply-To: josh@agliodbs.com Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: Neil Conway Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Collaboration Tool Proposal -- Summary to date Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:49:06 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, pgsql-www@postgresql.org References: <200402260912.54001.josh@agliodbs.com> <200402291211.33958.josh@agliodbs.com> <404258E9.10800@samurai.com> In-Reply-To: <404258E9.10800@samurai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200402291349.07241.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Archive-Number: 200402/248 X-Sequence-Number: 3813 Neil, > Frankly, I think the PostgreSQL project would be sending "the wrong > message" if we chose our tools on any basis other than functionality. > We ought to use what works, whether it supports PG or not. Whether the > bug tracker tool uses PostgreSQL, flat files or MS Access to store > data is entirely secondary to whether it serves the needs of the > development group. OK, then, more substantial: I personally lack confidence in any tool that uses an in-memory object database to store persistent data. I also feel pessimistic about our ability to extend and integrate a tool which uses radically different storage mechanism than the other tools we're using. Finally, for any of these things I forsee asking the communites involved with those projects for help, and it seems foolish to beg for help (as would probably be required of a project that does nor support PG) when there are people offering to help us. THIS JUST IN: as if we didn't have enough options, Talli of the OpenACS community has offered their help with using OpenACS modules for any of the web tasks we've discussed. More later. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco