X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0141D1D10E; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 05:52:33 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23320-07; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 05:52:34 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (ara.zf.jcu.cz [160.217.161.4]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A286D1D137; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 05:52:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ara.zf.jcu.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nod32.zf.jcu.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF38985D; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:52:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanner: This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus system NOD32 for Linux Mail Server. For more information on NOD32 Antivirus System, please, visit our website: http://www.nod32.com/ Received: by ara.zf.jcu.cz (Postfix, from userid 5770) id 7648698AD; Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:52:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:52:32 +0200 From: Karel Zak To: David Garamond Cc: Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL advocacy Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL? Message-ID: <20040423085232.GA9124@zf.jcu.cz> References: <200404230409.i3N49jC02890@candle.pha.pa.us> <4088B221.3000402@zara.6.isreserved.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4088B221.3000402@zara.6.isreserved.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/214 X-Sequence-Number: 4186 On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:05:21PM +0700, David Garamond wrote: > So in my opinion, as long as the general awareness about RDBMS (on what > tasks/responsibilities it should do, what features it generally has to > have, etc) is low, people will be looking at MySQL as "good enough" and > will not be motivated to look around for something better. As a > comparison, I'm always amazed by people who use Windows 95/98/Me. They > find it normal/"good enough" that the system crashes every now and then, > has to be rebooted every few hours (or every time they install > something). They don't know of anything better. Agree. People don't know that an RDBMS can be more better. A lot of users think speed is the most important thing. And they check the performance of SQL server by "time mysql -e "SELECT..." but they don't know something about concurrency or locking. BTW, is the current MySQL target (replication, transactions, ..etc) what typical MySQL users expect? I think they will lost users who love classic, fast and simple MySQL. The trade with advanced SQL servers is pretty full. I don't understand why MySQL developers want to leave their current possition and want to fight with PostgreSQL, Oracle, DB2 .. etc. Karel -- Karel Zak http://home.zf.jcu.cz/~zakkr/