X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F562D1B4B3; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:16:25 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 40197-01; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:16:19 -0300 (ADT) Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server228.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.228]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D558D1B43A; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:16:18 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [63.195.55.98] (HELO spooky) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 4949764; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:17:43 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Josh Berkus Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: Shachar Shemesh Subject: Re: Do we prefer software that works or software that looks good? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:16:07 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL advocacy References: <7305.1082779876@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4089F9ED.6000108@shemesh.biz> In-Reply-To: <4089F9ED.6000108@shemesh.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200404261016.07903.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/238 X-Sequence-Number: 4210 Shachar, > Now, I'm intending to do the best I can on my end. This does have a > pretty heavy cost. It means that the OLE DB driver will parse in details > each query, and perform replacements on the query text. This is bug > prone, difficult, hurts performance, and just plain wrong from a > software design perspective. The current drift of wind, however, means > that the PostgreSQL steering commite seems to prefer having a lesser > quality driver to seeing ugly uppercase. Hey, now wait a minute. As far as I can tell, you've heard only from Tom Lane on the steering committee (I may have missed some, though, I've been sick) Unless the 5 of us take a vote, Tom Lane speaks for Tom Lane, not for Core. Also, usually this list or Patches determines by consensus what gets in; the Core only gets involved in very unusual cases. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco