X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F6DD1B8AA; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:30:56 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90850-08; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:30:53 -0300 (ADT) Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server228.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.228]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1D7D1B590; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:30:50 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [63.195.55.98] (HELO spooky) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 4957346; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:32:11 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Josh Berkus Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: Tim Conrad , "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: Upcoming Features WAS: What can we learn from MySQL? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:30:28 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 Cc: PostgreSQL advocacy References: <200404262213.44601.jm@poure.com> <20040427134215.I60328@ganymede.hub.org> <20040427165746.GA1873@external.timconrad.org> In-Reply-To: <20040427165746.GA1873@external.timconrad.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200404271030.28173.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/260 X-Sequence-Number: 4232 Tim, Ok, first off, taking this thread off Hackers where it's not necessary. > Seriously, though. I was looking through the list yesterday trying > to figure out something, and it was kind of hard to do.But, more to > my point, this stuff is in the MySQL manual, making it easy to find. > (Yes. I know what MySQL includes kind of blows, but, it's better > than nothing) Well, our issue is that we have a significant phobia of announcing features that we can't deliver. A lot of us are still embarassed over the 7.4+Windows thing. And many, many other features got as far as a first-round patch and then died for a variety of reasons, or have had their development drag on for 3 years (2PC comes to mind). I guess there's a perception that we are "above" the marketeering of MySQL and Microsoft, where features are promised as much as 6 years before they appear, or are heavily publicized while still in alpha. So the most you'd be likely to get the community to commit to is maintaining a list of easy-to-read "Major Features in Development". Which wouldn't be a bad idea, at that. But not in the Docs ;-) -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco