X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A69BD1C50C; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:34:28 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69338-04; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:34:26 -0300 (ADT) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (candle.pha.pa.us [207.106.42.251]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19C5D1B8B4; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:34:21 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i3RGYCw02054; Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:34:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200404271634.i3RGYCw02054@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] What can we learn from MySQL? In-Reply-To: <20040427160711.GA67934@external.timconrad.org> To: Tim Conrad Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Alexey Borzov , PostgreSQL-development , PostgreSQL advocacy X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL108 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/257 X-Sequence-Number: 4229 Tim Conrad wrote: > > Of course, some gullible people actually believe this and compare [2] > > the existing and working implementations with vaporware (MySQL 5.1, > > anyone?). > > > > > On those same lines, there doesn't seem to be anything about the > > > improvements in the minor versions. It seems that in every > > > release (i.e. 7.2,7.3,7.4) there are pretty significant changes, > > > but finding a place that outlines these changes is somewhat > > > difficult. > > > > Have you tried looking in the release notes [3]? > > > > > > [1] http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/194/1998/8/0/1061364/ > > [2] http://www.devx.com/dbzone/Article/20743/1763?supportItem=1 > > [3] http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/release.html > > I guess I'm an ignorant fool and I don't comprehend many of the > items under the release note. I'm also looking for something I can > hand my boss and say ' this is why we should use postgres instead of > oracle'. I think the summary of each release at the top would be OK for that. Actually, your biggest problem is that we don't have a big motivation to _sell_ PostgreSQL to anyone. We are more driven toward solving problems and designing superior software. If it looks like we don't have a polished sales image, that's because we don't stive for that. However, we have had a large number of volunteers over the past few months focus in this area and I hope there will be visible results shortly. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073