X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9BD1E7CA for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:51:16 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 50071-03 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:50:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from davinci.ethosmedia.com (server228.ethosmedia.com [209.128.84.228]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98868D1E316 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:50:55 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [64.81.245.111] (HELO 192.168.1.102) by davinci.ethosmedia.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 4974960; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:52:22 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Reply-To: josh@agliodbs.com Organization: Aglio Database Solutions To: Rod Taylor , Bruce Momjian Subject: Re: Promoting PostgreSQL to the world. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:51:15 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 Cc: "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" References: <200404291929.i3TJTl201079@candle.pha.pa.us> <1083267853.30065.371.camel@jester> In-Reply-To: <1083267853.30065.371.camel@jester> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200404291251.15453.josh@agliodbs.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200404/256 X-Sequence-Number: 4360 Rod, > So yes, I would argue that Command Prompt should not be distributing a > modified PostgreSQL under the PostgreSQL brand name. Calling it Mammoth > Database and mentioning that it is based, in part, on PostgreSQL would > be more appropriate. What if, on the other hand, they invite us to inspect it? And it's not like CMD is a total non-contributor in the way dbExperts is. While they're not patching modules to the main source, they've released several add-ons as OSS. If I was going to yank the trademark chain on anyone, it would be dbexperts. However, Linux did *not* get where it is today by Linus prohibiting the use of the name. We *should* send out letters to companies making sure that they have a trademark notice for us ("PostgreSQL is a Registered Trademark") ... but that opens up another sticky can o'worms, namely that the trademark is filed for PostgreSQL Inc, not for the PGDG, which legally doesn't exist. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco