X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.2]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43165D1E620 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:41:06 -0300 (ADT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (neptune.hub.org [200.46.204.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 43687-06 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:40:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fetter.org (dsl092-188-065.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.188.65]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525E2D1E835 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 16:40:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fetter.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fetter.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3TJees0006539; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:40:40 -0700 Received: (from shackle@localhost) by fetter.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i3TJeb9s006537; Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:40:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:40:37 -0700 From: David Fetter To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Rod Taylor , Josh Berkus , "pgsql-www@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Promoting PostgreSQL to the world. Message-ID: <20040429194037.GD5678@fetter.org> References: <1083264865.30065.354.camel@jester> <200404291929.i3TJTl201079@candle.pha.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404291929.i3TJTl201079@candle.pha.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at postgresql.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests=SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS X-Spam-Level: *** X-Archive-Number: 200404/253 X-Sequence-Number: 4357 On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 03:29:47PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Rod Taylor wrote: [snip] > > Despite everything SRA has done in the past, if a new CEO came by > > and said they were forking the project and taking all staff off > > the public project, we should not allow them to continue use of > > the PostgreSQL brand. This requires protecting it in the first > > place. SRA could not have received blanket authorization to use > > the logo to start with. > Command Prompt doesn't doesn't have any staff contributing to the > public project. Do we tell them they can't use the name > "PostgreSQL"? That is just an example. There are tons of > PostgreSQL usages out there that have no payback to the community. > ConnX and dbexperts are good examples. > > Not only should we take a reasonable cut (in this case) but we > > should require a certain quality level in the product they put our > > logo. > That is my point. Are we going to require a certain level of > acceptable usage for someone to use the name? I am not an intellectual property attorney, but...wait a minute. Is PostgreSQL a trademark? If it is, we need to defend it, or it lapses. An IP attorney can say how, but I don't think any of the rest of us is qualified to have an opinion on this without consulting one. Just my $.02. Cheers, D -- David Fetter david@fetter.org http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 510 893 6100 mobile: +1 415 235 3778 Remember to vote!