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* Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-01 02:05 David Fetter <[email protected]>
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From: David Fetter @ 2004-07-01 02:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
Kind people,
I'd like to propose putting a link to
irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
somewhere near the top of the front page of www.postgresql.org? I
think it would help newcomers quite a bit.
What do you all think?
Cheers,
D
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-01 13:22 Robert Treat <[email protected]>
parent: David Fetter <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Robert Treat @ 2004-07-01 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 22:05, David Fetter wrote:
> Kind people,
>
> I'd like to propose putting a link to
>
> irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
>
> somewhere near the top of the front page of www.postgresql.org? I
> think it would help newcomers quite a bit.
>
> What do you all think?
>
Honestly? I think people using irc are a dieing breed :-)
People are probably better off going through the lists anyway, since it
exposes them to a wider list of helpers and their problems get archived
for others who follow. I do think we should have a mention in the FAQ
(which I think we do) and possible a link in the "lists" section since
it seems to most resemble a "get help" section...
Robert Treat
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-02 17:15 David Fetter <[email protected]>
parent: Robert Treat <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Fetter @ 2004-07-02 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pgsql-www
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 09:22:38AM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 22:05, David Fetter wrote:
> > Kind people,
> >
> > I'd like to propose putting a link to
> >
> > irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
> >
> > somewhere near the top of the front page of www.postgresql.org? I
> > think it would help newcomers quite a bit.
> >
> > What do you all think?
>
> Honestly? I think people using irc are a dieing breed :-)
Everybody who is not already dead is dying. Was there some point you
had to make here?
> People are probably better off going through the lists anyway, since
> it exposes them to a wider list of helpers and their problems get
> archived for others who follow. I do think we should have a mention
> in the FAQ (which I think we do) and possible a link in the "lists"
> section since it seems to most resemble a "get help" section...
Something like "For quick, free help on-line, try
irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql" doesn't interfere with any of
this, and it would help some people. Redundant, heterogeneous systems
are good.
Cheers,
D
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-02 18:10 Gavin M. Roy <[email protected]>
parent: David Fetter <[email protected]>
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From: Gavin M. Roy @ 2004-07-02 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
>>Honestly? I think people using irc are a dieing breed :-)
>>
>>
A conservative guess based upon the top 10 networks alone is that there
are approximately half a million people who use IRC daily.
Gavin
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-06 14:38 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
parent: David Fetter <[email protected]>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Momjian @ 2004-07-06 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
David Fetter wrote:
> Kind people,
>
> I'd like to propose putting a link to
>
> irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
>
> somewhere near the top of the front page of www.postgresql.org? I
> think it would help newcomers quite a bit.
>
> What do you all think?
Uh, it is already mentioned in the FAQ.
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-06 15:08 David Fetter <[email protected]>
parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Fetter @ 2004-07-06 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 10:38:18AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
> > Kind people,
> >
> > I'd like to propose putting a link to
> >
> > irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
> >
> > somewhere near the top of the front page of www.postgresql.org? I
> > think it would help newcomers quite a bit.
> >
> > What do you all think?
>
> Uh, it is already mentioned in the FAQ.
Under the current design, the FAQ is not easy for newbies to find,
where the top of www.postgresql.org is.
I really didn't expect this to be controversial. Would somebody just
put the blasted thing up there, or give me the needed permissions to
do same?
Cheers,
David.
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 12:39 Fred Moyer <[email protected]>
parent: David Fetter <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Fred Moyer @ 2004-07-07 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
>> Uh, it is already mentioned in the FAQ.
>
> Under the current design, the FAQ is not easy for newbies to find,
> where the top of www.postgresql.org is.
>
I agree the FAQ is not the easiest link to find even though it is at the
end of the first paragraph on the docs page. The link does not stand out,
and while someone familiar with the site may be able to find it easily a
deer-in-the-headlights newbie may have more of a challenge. Additionally
a newbie may try the User section first before going to Docs.
The link to IRC is buried though, here is the path I took to find it
knowing only the information I read in this thread.
Home->Docs->FAQS(end of first paragraph on docs
page)->RegionalFAQ->(browser search for IRC).
Perhaps replace the section
"Tech Support requests to this address will be ignored!" on the right nav
with "Click here for tech support!" which links to IRC info?
Regards,
Fred
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 13:01 Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
parent: Fred Moyer <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-07-07 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fred Moyer <[email protected]>; +Cc: David Fetter <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Would it be an idea to put the FAQ itself a bit more prominently on the
front page?
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Fred Moyer wrote:
>>> Uh, it is already mentioned in the FAQ.
>>
>> Under the current design, the FAQ is not easy for newbies to find,
>> where the top of www.postgresql.org is.
>>
> I agree the FAQ is not the easiest link to find even though it is at the
> end of the first paragraph on the docs page. The link does not stand out,
> and while someone familiar with the site may be able to find it easily a
> deer-in-the-headlights newbie may have more of a challenge. Additionally
> a newbie may try the User section first before going to Docs.
>
> The link to IRC is buried though, here is the path I took to find it
> knowing only the information I read in this thread.
>
> Home->Docs->FAQS(end of first paragraph on docs
> page)->RegionalFAQ->(browser search for IRC).
>
> Perhaps replace the section
> "Tech Support requests to this address will be ignored!" on the right nav
> with "Click here for tech support!" which links to IRC info?
>
> Regards,
>
> Fred
>
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 14:53 David Fetter <[email protected]>
parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Fetter @ 2004-07-07 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Fred Moyer <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 10:01:21AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Would it be an idea to put the FAQ itself a bit more prominently on the
> front page?
That would be a good thing, too. Putting the IRC link up top doesn't
exclude this :)
Cheers,
D
>
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Fred Moyer wrote:
>
> >>>Uh, it is already mentioned in the FAQ.
> >>
> >>Under the current design, the FAQ is not easy for newbies to find,
> >>where the top of www.postgresql.org is.
> >>
> >I agree the FAQ is not the easiest link to find even though it is at the
> >end of the first paragraph on the docs page. The link does not stand out,
> >and while someone familiar with the site may be able to find it easily a
> >deer-in-the-headlights newbie may have more of a challenge. Additionally
> >a newbie may try the User section first before going to Docs.
> >
> >The link to IRC is buried though, here is the path I took to find it
> >knowing only the information I read in this thread.
> >
> >Home->Docs->FAQS(end of first paragraph on docs
> >page)->RegionalFAQ->(browser search for IRC).
> >
> >Perhaps replace the section
> >"Tech Support requests to this address will be ignored!" on the right nav
> >with "Click here for tech support!" which links to IRC info?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Fred
> >
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 15:17 Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2004-07-07 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Fred Moyer <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Fetter
> Sent: 07 July 2004 15:53
> To: Marc G. Fournier
> Cc: Fred Moyer; Bruce Momjian; PostgreSQL WWW
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Small suggestion
>
> On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 10:01:21AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> >
> > Would it be an idea to put the FAQ itself a bit more prominently on
> > the front page?
>
> That would be a good thing, too. Putting the IRC link up top
> doesn't exclude this :)
I've added the FAQ and IRC channel to the left bar. Preview it at
http://www.postgresql.org/index.php or wait for the next site build :-)
/D
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 15:22 David Fetter <[email protected]>
parent: Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Fetter @ 2004-07-07 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Fred Moyer <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:17:51PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Fetter
> > Sent: 07 July 2004 15:53
> > To: Marc G. Fournier
> > Cc: Fred Moyer; Bruce Momjian; PostgreSQL WWW
> > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Small suggestion
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 10:01:21AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > >
> > > Would it be an idea to put the FAQ itself a bit more prominently on
> > > the front page?
> >
> > That would be a good thing, too. Putting the IRC link up top
> > doesn't exclude this :)
>
> I've added the FAQ and IRC channel to the left bar. Preview it at
> http://www.postgresql.org/index.php or wait for the next site build :-)
Very nice. :)
Please make the "Quick help" thing a link to
irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
Cheers,
'nother D.
> /D
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 15:56 Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Dave Page @ 2004-07-07 15:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Fetter <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Fred Moyer <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Fetter [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 07 July 2004 16:23
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Marc G. Fournier; Fred Moyer; Bruce Momjian; PostgreSQL WWW
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Small suggestion
>
> Very nice. :)
>
> Please make the "Quick help" thing a link to
> irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
>
Done.
/D
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* Re: Small suggestion
@ 2004-07-07 15:58 David Fetter <[email protected]>
parent: Dave Page <[email protected]>
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: David Fetter @ 2004-07-07 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Fred Moyer <[email protected]>; Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:56:37PM +0100, Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Fetter [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: 07 July 2004 16:23
> > To: Dave Page
> > Cc: Marc G. Fournier; Fred Moyer; Bruce Momjian; PostgreSQL WWW
> > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Small suggestion
> >
> > Very nice. :)
> >
> > Please make the "Quick help" thing a link to
> > irc://irc.freenode.net/postgresql
> >
>
> Done.
Thanks! :)
Cheers,
D
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