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* Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?
@ 2004-08-13 07:13 Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Dave Page @ 2004-08-13 07:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Treat [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 13 August 2004 06:48
> To: Marc G. Fournier
> Cc: Dave Page; Josh Berkus; PostgreSQL www
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?
>
> On Thursday 12 August 2004 18:16, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Dave Page wrote:
> > > The problem is, how do we make them read stuff without,
> umm, making
> > > them read stuff?
> >
> > If someone wants to submit text changes for the 'welcome
> message' that
> > is sent out when someone subscribes, maybe pointinng them
> to various
> > sources of info, that might help ... ?
> >
>
> We don't currently have an FAQ for each list, maybe we should
> start with that and mail that out whenever someone subscribes.
Definitely not a bad idea to do anyway, but I'm thinking more along the
lines of helping ppl before they even get to the lists.
Regards, Dave.
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* Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?
@ 2004-08-13 08:57 Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
parent: Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Michael Glaesemann @ 2004-08-13 08:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
On Aug 13, 2004, at 4:13 PM, Dave Page wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Treat [mailto:[email protected]]
>>
>> We don't currently have an FAQ for each list, maybe we should
>> start with that and mail that out whenever someone subscribes.
>
> Definitely not a bad idea to do anyway, but I'm thinking more along the
> lines of helping ppl before they even get to the lists.
Would it make sense to trim the faqs a bit? There's a lot of
information in there, and people might be hesitant to dive into them.
Of course, they *should* look at the faq, as there's a lot of good
stuff in there, but then again, people should read the docs too.
Also, if you subscribe via the web interface, there's a link to view
the faq, even before you subscribe. However, there are currently no
faqs for the lists. This is a pretty visible place where people have
the opportunity to read the faq, and often they're joining the list
because they have a question. Perhaps we could head them off a few
questions there?
Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com
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* Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?
@ 2004-08-13 16:38 Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
parent: Dave Page <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2004-08-13 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Page <[email protected]>; Robert Treat <[email protected]>; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Guys,
> Definitely not a bad idea to do anyway, but I'm thinking more along the
> lines of helping ppl before they even get to the lists.
Unfortunately, I discussed the *best* way with Gavin Sherry yesterday -- which
would be to have a "PostgreSQL on Windows" book. But that would have had to
been started about 6 months ago. :-( Still, if anyone here knows anyone
who can write such a book, I can get you published.
Regarding Tom's comment, perhaps we should entertain the idea of Web Forums?
For whatever reason, we found out at OOo that web forums (with enough speed,
of course) hold up better under a load of 100 to 500 posts per day than
mailing lists do, at least in terms of usability.
One of the Perl people is working on a combo web forum/mailing list software,
but unfortunately the project just started ...
--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
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* Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?
@ 2004-08-13 18:20 Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
parent: Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>
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From: Josh Berkus @ 2004-08-13 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; +Cc: Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
People,
> > Definitely not a bad idea to do anyway, but I'm thinking more along the
> > lines of helping ppl before they even get to the lists.
Hmmmm ... I'm also thinking that we need an HTML PostgreSQL+Windows tutorial
linked from the main page or at least the Documentation page.
--
-Josh Berkus
"A developer of Very Little Brain"
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
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* What we need (Was: Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?)
@ 2004-08-13 18:47 Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
parent: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-08-13 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www; Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
Right now, I think its pretty safe to say that things are looking like the
release will be *at least* 2 months away .. do we have a TODO list of what
should be done by then, in preparation? For instance, you mention below a
Tutorial, but does one exist right now that can be linked in, or does one
need to be created?
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
> People,
>
>>> Definitely not a bad idea to do anyway, but I'm thinking more along the
>>> lines of helping ppl before they even get to the lists.
>
> Hmmmm ... I'm also thinking that we need an HTML PostgreSQL+Windows tutorial
> linked from the main page or at least the Documentation page.
>
> --
> -Josh Berkus
> "A developer of Very Little Brain"
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>
>
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: What we need (Was: Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?)
@ 2004-08-14 03:04 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2004-08-14 03:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> Right now, I think its pretty safe to say that things are looking like the
> release will be *at least* 2 months away .. do we have a TODO list of what
> should be done by then, in preparation? For instance, you mention below a
> Tutorial, but does one exist right now that can be linked in, or does one
> need to be created?
We have:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
P O S T G R E S Q L
8 . 0 O P E N I T E M S
Current version at ftp://momjian.postgresql.org/pub/postgresql/open_items.
Changes
-------
* Win32
o binary version stamps
o signal safe socket handler
o query cancel in psql (?)
o Report correct errno codes from native Windows system calls
o Shorten timezone for %t log_line_prefix
o start pg_autovacuum easily
o fix pitr file copy syntax
* fix dbsize and oid2name for tablespaces
* allow libpq to check parameterized data types
* make pgxs install the default
* add xid to log_line_prefix for PITR
* add psql tab completion for tablespaces
* cleanup FRONTEND use in /port, malloc, elog
--
Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
[email protected] | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
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* Re: What we need (Was: Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?)
@ 2004-08-14 03:18 Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2004-08-14 03:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; Michael Glaesemann <[email protected]>; Dave Page <[email protected]>; Robert Treat <[email protected]>; pgsql-www
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>> Right now, I think its pretty safe to say that things are looking like the
>> release will be *at least* 2 months away .. do we have a TODO list of what
>> should be done by then, in preparation? For instance, you mention below a
>> Tutorial, but does one exist right now that can be linked in, or does one
>> need to be created?
>
> We have:
Oops, sorry, you mis-understood the question ... I was more looking at
what the thread was talking about insofar as mailing lists, web sites, etc
... stuff from the support side, not the technical :)
----
Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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* Re: What we need (Was: Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?)
@ 2004-08-14 03:29 Tom Lane <[email protected]>
parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
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From: Tom Lane @ 2004-08-14 03:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> writes:
> 8 . 0 O P E N I T E M S
> o fix pitr file copy syntax
Isn't this done?
> * fix dbsize and oid2name for tablespaces
I thought you committed a dbsize patch already.
> * allow libpq to check parameterized data types
What is this?
Also, we have a number of unresolved pg_dump bugs (it's not improbable
that we might have to back out the patch to manage ownership via ALTER
OWNER) and I've been noticing quite a lot of Windows users reporting
that it can't recognize their timezone, which says that we're going to
need yet another re-think of that issue :-(
regards, tom lane
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* Re: What we need (Was: Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?)
@ 2004-08-14 03:33 Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
parent: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
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From: Bruce Momjian @ 2004-08-14 03:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www
Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> writes:
> > 8 . 0 O P E N I T E M S
>
> > o fix pitr file copy syntax
>
> Isn't this done?
Yep, fixed.
>
> > * fix dbsize and oid2name for tablespaces
>
> I thought you committed a dbsize patch already.
Yep, dbsize removed.
> > * allow libpq to check parameterized data types
>
> What is this?
Uh, that was related to Jan's thing about adding a libpq protocol
capability so libs can find the data type of prepared queries.
> Also, we have a number of unresolved pg_dump bugs (it's not improbable
> that we might have to back out the patch to manage ownership via ALTER
Yes, I am tracking those but am not sure how to even explain them.
> OWNER) and I've been noticing quite a lot of Windows users reporting
> that it can't recognize their timezone, which says that we're going to
> need yet another re-think of that issue :-(
Added:
o Fix users who's timezones are not recognized
--
Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
[email protected] | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
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2004-08-13 18:47 ` What we need (Was: Re: PGSQL-WINDOWS mailing list?) Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
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