From: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Organization: Aglio Database Solutions
To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Server unreliability
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:05:59 -0700
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	"Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>,
	Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
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Marc, Darcy, Bruce, Peter, et. al.

> Poor use of terminlogy on my part, but the net effect is the same, the FS
> is being used to facilitate the jail, take away the jail, take away the
> need of the stacked FS.

The other BSD experts I've talked to all agree that the Jail setup on the 
current servers is a severe performance drain.   I think we really need to 
look at not using jails for the the dedicated PostgreSQL server(s), when we 
have them.

> One thing I know we can do here to help at least the availability of the
> website itself, is to use a round-robin DNS based setup. 

FWIW, some folks at SourceForge have offered their help in configuring this.   
I'm currently waiting for Adi to get back from vacation to proceed.

> I'm sure people would offer money, servers, and pipes if there were some
> public accounting and governance.  Right now, we don't really know
>
> - What services are being run?
> - How many resources does that take?
> - Who provides those resources?
> - Who administers these services?

This is why I'd like to do some of this stuff -- particularly fundraising -- 
through the Foundation.   However, as you know Peter, there have been some 
delays in that regard.

-- 
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco