X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABD432A02E for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:17:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 44424-10 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:16:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37C8932A052 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:16:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 19794 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Sep 2004 18:15:54 -0000 Received: from dsl-213-023-248-159.arcor-ip.net (EHLO colt.pezone.net) (213.23.248.159) by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 29 Sep 2004 20:15:54 +0200 X-Authenticated: #495269 From: Peter Eisentraut To: Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL www Subject: Re: Server unreliability Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:15:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 Cc: PostgreSQL advocacy References: <200409291713.i8THDLn14086@candle.pha.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <200409291713.i8THDLn14086@candle.pha.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409292015.52976.peter_e@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200409/207 X-Sequence-Number: 5277 Bruce Momjian wrote: > Basically, with no money and no one offering servers, I don't see a > good solution to any of these problems, but I think we need to > recognize these are problems and that we will continue to suffer > until they are addressed. I'm sure people would offer money, servers, and pipes if there were some public accounting and governance. Right now, we don't really know - What services are being run? - How many resources does that take? - Who provides those resources? - Who administers these services? Take a look at this: . This is the sort of thing we need before we can continue planning our system resources. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/