X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C7E329F2A for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:20:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 91842-06 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:20:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fetter.org (dsl092-188-065.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.188.65]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742B3329E64 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:20:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from fetter.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fetter.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8TKK4rG015330 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:20:05 -0700 Received: (from shackle@localhost) by fetter.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i8TKK4hO015329 for pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:20:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:20:04 -0700 From: David Fetter To: PostgreSQL Advocacy Subject: Re: Server unreliability Message-ID: <20040929202004.GB14879@fetter.org> References: <20040929152954.L93533@ganymede.hub.org> <200409292008.i8TK83X15309@candle.pha.pa.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409292008.i8TK83X15309@candle.pha.pa.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200409/195 X-Sequence-Number: 5438 On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 04:08:03PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Mitch Pirtle wrote: > > > > > Hi Bruce, we met in Manhattan for your NYPHP presentation - I > > > was the lone PostgreSQL cheerleader in the back ;-) > > > > > > You ask for proposals, no matter how radical, so here goes: > > > > > > o Location of servers > > > > > > Pending bandwidth requirements, I am willing to sponsor hosting > > > of these sites, possibly on dedicated hardware. But I need some > > > ideas of bandwidth usage so I can figure out which strategies > > > make the most sense financially. BTW be glad your servers are > > > not in Florida, I have one client that is in a significant > > > amount of pain right now. > > > > The server location is not changing, but thank you for your offer > > ... > > > > > o FreeBSD > > > > > > I'm agnostic in this regard, but have experienced that Linux > > > distros seem to be the easiest to maintain (Debian, Fedora). > > > > Again, operating system isn't changing, but thank you for your > > offer ... > > I assume you mean "not changing" while you are administering the > servers. I don't remember any community agreement that the current > setup was permanent, and my thinking now is that all avenues are > open for exploration. > > I am not ready to dismiss this offer/idea. Bruce, it isn't just you who finds this airy dismissal ridiculous. In fact, the only person who's acting like this is dismissed out of hand is Marc. Marc, you've been a great contributor to the community, but lately, you've gotten quite severely off track. You can continue to help by straightening up and flying right, but you are, as you have been reminded publicly in the past, *not* the dictator on this project. You are not indispensable, and if you continue to pull this nonsense, you *will* be dispensed with. Sincerely, David. -- David Fetter david@fetter.org http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 510 893 6100 mobile: +1 415 235 3778 Remember to vote!