X-Original-To: pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B6C329FAD for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:44:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 98992-08 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:44:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from candle.pha.pa.us (candle.pha.pa.us [207.106.42.251]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41836329FFE for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:44:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (from pgman@localhost) by candle.pha.pa.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i8TKiRo21324; Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200409292044.i8TKiRo21324@candle.pha.pa.us> Subject: Re: Server unreliability In-Reply-To: <200409291335.20727.josh@agliodbs.com> To: josh@agliodbs.com Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, David Fetter X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL108 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200409/200 X-Sequence-Number: 5443 Josh Berkus wrote: > David, > > > Marc, you've been a great contributor to the community, but lately, > > you've gotten quite severely off track. You can continue to help by > > straightening up and flying right, but you are, as you have been > > reminded publicly in the past, *not* the dictator on this project. > > You are not indispensable, and if you continue to pull this nonsense, > > you *will* be dispensed with. > > Hey! Take it easy! Everyone here has been working hard to promote and > support PostgreSQL, particularly Marc, and taking a superior tone does > nothing to improve the real problems. > > Even if we were donated a 5-server data center at Globix with unlimited > bandwidth tommorrow, Marc would still he helping us with list/server admin, > and it would still be the case that Hub.org has supported this project for > years, including periods in which there was no/little benefit in doing so. "Years" where there was no/little benefit. We had first-class infrastructure when other open source projects were run on servers that moved every few months. My problem is that our reliability has gone _down_ in the past few years when it should have been getting better, and I am trying to find out the cause and push us to adopt a solution. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073