From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Message-Id: <200411121800.iACI0em19239@candle.pha.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Alternate PostgreSQL.org Design
In-Reply-To: <200411120919.26432.josh@agliodbs.com>
To: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:00:40 -0500 (EST)
Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, Omar Kilani <omar@tinysofa.org>,
	pgsql-www@postgresql.org
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Is the new website going to be rolled out in time for the 8.0 release,
which could be in the next few weeks?

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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Omar,
> 
> > We believe that it is clean, professional and simple. And it makes the
> > release of 8.0 actually... exciting. :)
> 
> I like the organization of content.   I find the graphics a bit HP-ish, but 
> that's work-on-able.  It's certainly less crowded than our current design, 
> and you've done a nice job making things a lot more intuitively findable.
> 
> > It is a *drop-in* replacement for the current pgweb design. No
> > additional work is required to retrofit the current wwwdevel design.
> > It's already done!
> 
> Keen, this makes a discussion about it more useful.   Thank you for going the 
> extra mile and dealing with some of the drill-down pages; it really gives us 
> an idea of how you envision the site being organized.
> 
> > We've gone through a bit of the current content and fixed it up with
> > proper headings and so forth. But we believe that the content needs to
> > be restructured to fit within navigational guide lines.
> 
> No arguments here ... see the collected archives of www.
> 
> > * The overuse of subdomains is a major pain. Each subdomain uses a
> > completely different layout and design. X.postgresql.org should be under
> > the relevant section on the main site. Advocacy should move under
> > /about/. Developers has it's own section. Tech docs should move under
> > Documentation, etc.
> 
> We've had a consolidation plan for over a year.   Really, you should engage 
> more of a dialoge in the WWW list and talk to us about what's already 
> planned.
> 
> Techdocs is one hitch; article generation/editing needs to be handled by some 
> kind of online text editor.   Otherwise we limit contributors to the current 
> WWW team and nothing gets written.
> 
> Of course, it would also be a really good idea to have any part of the site 
> requiring significant maintenance .... such as the list of GUIs, the 
> contributor list, or consulting companies ... to be editable via simple text 
> editor or html form instead of via raw XHTML.   This would allow the general 
> pool of documentation volunteers -- which is 5x large than WWW volunteers -- 
> to maintain these areas.
> 
> -- 
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
> 
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