X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2018C3A48EB; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 05:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 77703-10; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 05:03:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao01.cox.net (lakermmtao01.cox.net [68.230.240.38]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD9F3A48E2; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 05:03:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (really [24.136.36.194]) by lakermmtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041113050310.LFRP22871.lakermmtao01.cox.net@[192.168.0.9]>; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:03:10 -0500 From: Robert Treat To: "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Alternate PostgreSQL.org Design Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:01:03 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: Peter Eisentraut , josh@agliodbs.com, pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org, Bruce Momjian , Alexey Borzov , Omar Kilani , pgsql-www@postgresql.org References: <200411122226.iACMQ8T28212@candle.pha.pa.us> <200411122336.44741.peter_e@gmx.net> <20041113004136.S3792@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20041113004136.S3792@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200411130001.03014.xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=0.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200411/194 X-Sequence-Number: 5925 On Friday 12 November 2004 23:42, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > Josh Berkus wrote: > >>> OK, fair enough. Now can someone explain how we can put out a > >>> release evrery 8-12 months with 200-300 changes, some very complex, > >>> and we can't get a group together to update a web site? > >> > >> Because a lot less people are working on the web site, and none of > >> them are paid to do so? > > > > We put out regular releases long before (some) people started getting > > paid for their work. If now we're only getting work done if someone's > > getting paid for it, we're in trouble. > > I agree ... IMHO, its like docs ... its not something ppl want to do, > since they have a perception that its not as "cool' as orking on the code > ... > I don't think it is just the coolness factor. It is easier to justify needing to hack database code to your boss/professor/manager than it is to justify hacking on the website. Same is true for a great many third party apps like ODBC/JDBC/PhpPgAdmin/etc... All of these things help you solve another problem. The current website, while not award winning, is functional enough that enough people can get work done without haveing to chip in. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL