From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
Message-Id: <200411290203.iAT23sk04399@candle.pha.pa.us>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] pg_autovacuum is nice ... but ...
In-Reply-To: <20041104182322.D21566@ganymede.hub.org>
To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:03:54 -0500 (EST)
Cc: Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>,
	Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
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Should I add a TODO to warn if FSM values are too small?  Is that doable?

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 
> Moved to -hackers where this belongs :)
> 
> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Justin Clift wrote:
> 
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> > <snip>
> >> Yup. 20000 < 23072, so you're losing some proportion of FSM entries.
> >> What's worse, the FSM relation table is maxed out (1000 = 1000) which
> >> suggests that there are relations not being tracked at all; you have
> >> no idea how much space is getting leaked in those.
> >> 
> >> You can determine the number of relations potentially needing FSM
> >> entries by
> >> 	select count(*) from pg_class where relkind in ('r','i','t');
> >> --- sum over all databases in the cluster to get the right result.
> >> 
> >> Once you've fixed max_fsm_relations, do vacuums in all databases, and
> >> then vacuum verbose should give you a usable lower bound for
> >> max_fsm_pages.
> >
> > Would making max_fsm_relations and max_fsm_pages dynamically update 
> > themselves whilst PostgreSQL runs be useful?  Sounds like they're the 
> > kind of things that many people would receive maximum benefit if 
> > PostgreSQL altered these settings as needed itself.
> 
> I'm not sure if I like this one too much ... but it would be nice if 
> something like this triggered a warning in the logs, maybe a feature of 
> pg_autovacuum itself?
> 
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