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From: "Gevik babakhani" <gevik@xs4all.nl>
To: <josh@agliodbs.com>
Cc: <pgsql-www@postgresql.org>, "'Magnus Hagander'" <mha@sollentuna.net>,
	"'Dave Page'" <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>
Subject: Re: PGDN and CVS
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:52:42 +0200
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Is this Framewerk the same as www.Framewerk.org?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-www-
> owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Josh Berkus
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:15 PM
> To: Gevik babakhani
> Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org; 'Magnus Hagander'; 'Dave Page'
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] PGDN and CVS
> 
> Gevik,
> 
> > I'm not discouraged in anyway... I have just been looking over and over
> > for a CMS that we could use in our project. Time after time I end up
> > with commercial products. And even if they are opensource, they need to
> > be so much customized that one has to put more time in customizing the
> > CMS framework rather than building the actual requirement.
> 
> What is it you're trying to implement, exactly, that you don't find
> supported?  Is it the tree structure?
> 
> Even if existing CMSes require customization, I think it'd be better to
> work with that project and try to get them involved in the feature.  As
> far as I know, the only CMS you've really tried is Drupal.
> 
> Both Bricolage and Framewerk are intimate with the PostgreSQL community
> and
> could be counted on to work with you.  I don't think you even looked at
> Bricolage after Marc set it up.
> 
> I also don't think you've evaluated "more time to implement" using valid
> criteria.  If you do a custom CMS, you're going to need to impement all of
> the common stuff yourself:
> Authentication
> User management (including "e-mail me my password, etc.")
> Approval/rights structures
> Versioning admin
> Editors (inc. wyswyg and/or bbcode edit)
> RSS
> etc.
> Did your really add up coding all of the above compared to customizing an
> existing system?
> 
> Again, I'm not trying to discourage you, but from my perspective half a
> CMS
> is worse than none.
> 
> --Josh
> 
> --
> --Josh
> 
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
> 
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