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From: Jim C. Nasby <[email protected]>
To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
Cc: Psql_General (E-mail) <[email protected]>
Cc: PostgreSQL WWW Mailing List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] What is the deal with mailing lists?
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:22:00 -0600
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 09:26:18AM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is it me or are we regularly seeing HOURS between posts. It is pretty 
> ridiculous that the archives which are rsynced are regularly ahead of 
> actual mail delivery.
> 
> Even worse that we can go hours between delivery.
> 
> At the time of this writing, my last post from hackers is 5:54 AM PST.
> I was speaking with DarcyB and his was hours before that. DarcyB and I 
> are both mailing list relays... If anything we should get email before 
> anyone else ;)
> 
> I just checked our relay queue and we only have 33 requests all of which
> are things like can not reach host. So email that goes through our 
> machines is working.

I find headers to be very valuable for diagnosing this kind of thing...

Received: from mx2.hub.org (mx2.hub.org [200.46.204.254])
        by flake.decibel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73E815225
        for <[email protected]>; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:20:37 -0600 (CST)
Received: from postgresql.org (postgresql.org [200.46.204.71])
        by mx2.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9C6D21C11;
        Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:20:04 +0000 (GMT)
X-Original-To: [email protected]
Received: from localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144])
        by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8449DD654;
        Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:19:26 -0400 (AST)
Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71])
 by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 00611-06; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:19:17 -0400 (AST)
X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-
X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-
Received: from hosting.commandprompt.com (128.commandprompt.com [207.173.200.128])
        by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F329DD64B;
        Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:19:15 -0400 (AST)
Received: from [192.168.1.55] (fc1smp [66.93.38.87])
        (authenticated bits=0)
        by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jAUHDHQa024087;
        Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:13:17 -0800
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:26:18 -0800

It looks like it took a total of 7:20 for that email to make it to me.
In a case of pot calling kettle black ;P, it took your machine 5:58 to
get it to postgresql.org. Of course that's assuming everyone's clock is
in sync, and the clock on the machine you sent the email from appears to
be 13 minutes fast.

Anyway, next time you're seeing a delay take a look at the headers and
see if you can pin down what the bottleneck is.
-- 
Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      [email protected]
Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf       cell: 512-569-9461



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