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* Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:11  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2006-01-16 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pgsql-www

The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
six months.

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  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  [email protected]               |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  13 Roberts Road
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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:15  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2006-01-16 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
> > sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
> > six months.
> >   
> 
> I thought we were using greylisting? You should get very little
> spam.

There are about four spams a day, and a valid email perhaps once every
four months.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  [email protected]               |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  13 Roberts Road
  +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:16  Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-01-16 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Bruce Momjian wrote:
> The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
> sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
> six months.
>   

I thought we were using greylisting? You should get very little
spam.

Joshua D. Drake



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:21  Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-01-16 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www


>> I thought we were using greylisting? You should get very little
>> spam.
>
> There are about four spams a day, and a valid email perhaps once every
> four months.
O.k. that is what I would expect. I personally get about 12 spams
a day but that is directly to jd@ . Think about how many spams are probably
really being sent to that address.

Honestly Bruce 4 spams is not that bad :) Do you have spam filtering
on your end? Something bayesian should pick up those 4.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:22  Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  parent: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-01-16 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
>> sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
>> six months.
>> 
>
> I thought we were using greylisting? You should get very little
> spam.

We have pretty much everything enabled on the lists, including 
Greylisting, but Greylisting doesn't help is someone sends the spam 
through 'legit channels' ... like most anti-spam software, they do have a 
finite lifetime before the spams just work around them ...

press is one of the only lists we run, though, that doesn't restrict 
posters to it (ie. you don't have to be subscribed to post to it), so its 
easier for the stray spam to get through to the subscribers ... not sure 
why we don't have restrict_post set on it though ... JoshB and RobertT are 
both owners of the list, maybe they can comment ... ?

-----
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Email: [email protected]           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:23  Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-01-16 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
>>> sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
>>> six months.
>>>
>>
>> I thought we were using greylisting? You should get very little
>> spam.
>
> There are about four spams a day, and a valid email perhaps once every
> four months.

Wow, I'll trade you my mailbox for yours ... *evil grin*  But, I don't 
imagine those 4 are the *only* spam you get each day ... or is it?

----
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Email: [email protected]           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:32  Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Joshua D. Drake @ 2006-01-16 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www


>
> press is one of the only lists we run, though, that doesn't restrict 
> posters to it (ie. you don't have to be subscribed to post to it), so 
> its easier for the stray spam to get through to the subscribers ... 
> not sure why we don't have restrict_post set on it though ... JoshB 
> and RobertT are both owners of the list, maybe they can comment ... ?
I am guessing because we don't want people seeking a press contact to 
have to subscribe.

Joshua D. Drake

>
> -----
> Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services 
> (http://www.hub.org)
> Email: [email protected]           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 
> 7615664


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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 19:54  Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  parent: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Marc G. Fournier @ 2006-01-16 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

>
>> 
>> press is one of the only lists we run, though, that doesn't restrict 
>> posters to it (ie. you don't have to be subscribed to post to it), so its 
>> easier for the stray spam to get through to the subscribers ... not sure 
>> why we don't have restrict_post set on it though ... JoshB and RobertT are 
>> both owners of the list, maybe they can comment ... ?

> I am guessing because we don't want people seeking a press contact to have to 
> subscribe.

Actually, they wouldn't have to ... all that would happen is Robert/Josh 
would get sent an email telling them that the message was there needing to 
be approved ...

  >
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>> 
>> -----
>> Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
>> Email: [email protected]           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664
>
>
> -- 
> The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.503.667.4564
> PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support
> Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting
> Co-Authors: PLphp, PLperl - http://www.commandprompt.com/
>
>

----
Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: [email protected]           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 20:45  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2006-01-16 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> 
> >> I thought we were using greylisting? You should get very little
> >> spam.
> >
> > There are about four spams a day, and a valid email perhaps once every
> > four months.
> O.k. that is what I would expect. I personally get about 12 spams
> a day but that is directly to jd@ . Think about how many spams are probably
> really being sent to that address.
> 
> Honestly Bruce 4 spams is not that bad :) Do you have spam filtering
> on your end? Something bayesian should pick up those 4.

Well, at this point, 50% of spam I receive that has gotten through my
filters is though the press list, so removing that drops my spam by 1/2.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  [email protected]               |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  13 Roberts Road
  +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-16 20:46  Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  parent: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Bruce Momjian @ 2006-01-16 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marc G. Fournier <[email protected]>; +Cc: Joshua D. Drake <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> 
> >
> >> 
> >> press is one of the only lists we run, though, that doesn't restrict 
> >> posters to it (ie. you don't have to be subscribed to post to it), so its 
> >> easier for the stray spam to get through to the subscribers ... not sure 
> >> why we don't have restrict_post set on it though ... JoshB and RobertT are 
> >> both owners of the list, maybe they can comment ... ?
> 
> > I am guessing because we don't want people seeking a press contact to have to 
> > subscribe.
> 
> Actually, they wouldn't have to ... all that would happen is Robert/Josh 
> would get sent an email telling them that the message was there needing to 
> be approved ...

Yes, originally they didn't want the delay have something having to be
approved, but at this point, it might be the best solution.

-- 
  Bruce Momjian                        |  http://candle.pha.pa.us
  [email protected]               |  (610) 359-1001
  +  If your life is a hard drive,     |  13 Roberts Road
  +  Christ can be your backup.        |  Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-17 18:14  Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
  parent: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread

From: Josh Berkus @ 2006-01-17 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; +Cc: pgsql-www

Bruce,

> The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
> sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
> six months.
> 

So, don't.  I'll stay on, I'm used to the spam.  Plus my server filters 
out another 50% of what gets past Marc.

--Josh



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* Re: Press email list
@ 2006-01-17 20:56  Vishal Kashyap <[email protected]>
  parent: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread

From: Vishal Kashyap @ 2006-01-17 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Josh Berkus <[email protected]>; +Cc: Bruce Momjian <[email protected]>; pgsql-www

Josh,

Same problem with in'postgresql.org. I would say I recive tons of SPAMS.

On 1/17/06, Josh Berkus <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> > The press email list is getting too many spam messages.  It doesn't make
> > sense for me to remain in the hope I get see one non-spam message every
> > six months.
> >
>
> So, don't.  I'll stay on, I'm used to the spam.  Plus my server filters
> out another 50% of what gets past Marc.
>
> --Josh
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>


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