X-Original-To: pgsql-www-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE0E11F6284; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17460-04; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:13 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A619A11F6081; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:11 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B2962C937; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14601-08; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-222-82-85.eastlink.ca [24.222.82.85]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB69762C91F; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8D1905C368; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F595C2B7; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:02 -0300 (ADT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:29:02 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: scrappy@ganymede.hub.org To: Kris Jurka cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , Bruce Momjian , pgsql-www@postgresql.org Subject: Re: mailing list moderation of subscriptions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060425162256.B34052@ganymede.hub.org> References: <200604251313.k3PDDo528776@candle.pha.pa.us> <20060425105334.X34052@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200604/175 X-Sequence-Number: 9951 On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Kris Jurka wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> Actually, Kris is referring to ppl sending in a subscribe message, but not >> sending back a confirmation ... the list moderator has the ability to >> approve such requests, which I general do when I clean out the lists ... >> the problem is that I know that I've had issues where that confirmation >> mail gets lost as spam (ie. Yahoo's spam features send it to the bulk mail >> folder, that I've had experience with ppl losing emails in) ... > > I guess my question is why do we have a confirmation at all? If someone > else tries to subscribe me then I have a small window where I can reject > it, but otherwise it will be approved by a moderator? My big worry is ppl slipping through the cracks due to anti-spam filters ... but, you do bring up a good point, why bother with the confirmation in the first place ... Anyone else have comments on this? It kinda breaks down into two paths: 1. remove 'confirmation / followup' email to subscribe 2. have moderators just ignore "admin requests" I don't like 1 myself, as that leaves things open to a dictionary attack kind of situation, where someone floods the lists with subscribe messages ... but, on the other hand, the way i've been doing things, those would just get approved anyway ... *groan* ... I think I just talked myself into 2 ... ignore them ... >> But, if Kris wants me to stop, that's cool ... there are other lists I >> don't touch ... >> > > I'd appreciate it if you still moderated messages in case I'm travelling or > otherwise unavailable. Oh, for messages themselves, I definitely will ... I'll just skip the subscribe/unsubscribe/set messages :) ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664