Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 13:26:31 -0300 (ADT)
From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>
To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>
cc: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Maia Mailgard down?
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Just to give some followup numbers, between both servers that are 
currently doing Spam/Virus/MAIA, here is what it has seen for josh@post 
since midnight:

# grep josh@post /var/log/amavis | awk '{print $8}' | sort | uniq -c
    2 CLEAN,
    4 INFECTED
   20 SPAM,

# grep josh@post /var/log/amavis | awk '{print $8}' | sort | uniq -c
    4 CLEAN,
    4 INFECTED
    4 SPAM,

So, not 100% certain where josh is seeing this "flood" ...

... but, just in case, I've raised the timeout on both the razor2 and 
pyzor checks from 10 sec to 60 sec ... see if that helps any ...

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Is there any way we can return to whatever we were using before Maia 
>> mailgard? Maia is patently NOT working ... it's fundamentally broken in 
>> some way, and isn't blocking any spam.  The interface for Baysian filtering 
>> is also awkward and darned near unusable.  In a couple months we're going 
>> to be trying to do the PostgreSQL 8.2 release which means that we need the 
>> @postgresql.org e-mail addresses working ... and right now they're all 
>> receiving a flood of unfiltered spam, making them unusable.
>
> Actually, all MAIA is is a front-end over what we were using before (amavisd 
> + spamassassin) to allow individual mailboxes to configure themselves, 
> instead of one big site-wide setting ... I'm getting a *trickle* of spam 
> right now, but I've spent the past week or so going through and training the 
> Bayesian database ... in fact, under the old system, those 46 messages that 
> are currently quarantined in your cache would have been delivered, instead of 
> quarantined ... in the @postgresql.org one that I monitor, there are >7k 
> messages currently in spam-quarantine that normally would have been passed 
> through to the system ...
>
> Not sure what you are finding awkward about the interface, but if you go in 
> and just turn on all the various checks, but *disable* the quarantining, so 
> that it just label's and passing everything over to you to filter, you will 
> have exactly the same thing in place that was there before we added the 
> interface for per-user settings ...
>
> Please note ... at *no time* did we ever reject spam for any mailbox, except 
> those for the mailing lists themselves, which majordomo is setup to do ... so 
> if you are seeing more now then before, its because we are being hit with 
> more now that are passing through spamassassin ...
>
> Note that unlike the ~60 messages in the cache for your mailbox right now (12 
> unconfirmed non-spam, 46 unconfirmed spam), the stuff that I go through is 
> right now sitting at ~10k, and I generally spend about a half hour in the 
> evening going through it ... I generally care about unconfirmed-spam between 
> 5 and 10, ignoring most above that ... and unconfirmed non-spam between 0 and 
> 5 ...
>
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