From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
Message-Id: <200608081435.k78EZ1212146@momjian.us>
Subject: Re: Maia Mailgard down?
In-Reply-To: <20060806120258.H7267@ganymede.hub.org>
To: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:35:01 -0400 (EDT)
CC: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
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Because all my momjian@postgresql.org email is forwarded to
bruce@momjian.us, I don't have any way of training the spam filter.  Is
there a way I can use a global one?

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Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Josh Berkus wrote:
> 
> > Folks,
> >
> > Is there any way we can return to whatever we were using before Maia 
> > mailgard? Maia is patently NOT working ... it's fundamentally broken in 
> > some way, and isn't blocking any spam.  The interface for Baysian 
> > filtering is also awkward and darned near unusable.  In a couple months 
> > we're going to be trying to do the PostgreSQL 8.2 release which means 
> > that we need the @postgresql.org e-mail addresses working ... and right 
> > now they're all receiving a flood of unfiltered spam, making them 
> > unusable.
> 
> Actually, all MAIA is is a front-end over what we were using before 
> (amavisd + spamassassin) to allow individual mailboxes to configure 
> themselves, instead of one big site-wide setting ... I'm getting a 
> *trickle* of spam right now, but I've spent the past week or so going 
> through and training the Bayesian database ... in fact, under the old 
> system, those 46 messages that are currently quarantined in your cache 
> would have been delivered, instead of quarantined ... in the 
> @postgresql.org one that I monitor, there are >7k messages currently in 
> spam-quarantine that normally would have been passed through to the system 
> ...
> 
> Not sure what you are finding awkward about the interface, but if you go 
> in and just turn on all the various checks, but *disable* the 
> quarantining, so that it just label's and passing everything over to you 
> to filter, you will have exactly the same thing in place that was there 
> before we added the interface for per-user settings ...
> 
> Please note ... at *no time* did we ever reject spam for any mailbox, 
> except those for the mailing lists themselves, which majordomo is setup to 
> do ... so if you are seeing more now then before, its because we are being 
> hit with more now that are passing through spamassassin ...
> 
> Note that unlike the ~60 messages in the cache for your mailbox right now 
> (12 unconfirmed non-spam, 46 unconfirmed spam), the stuff that I go 
> through is right now sitting at ~10k, and I generally spend about a half 
> hour in the evening going through it ... I generally care about 
> unconfirmed-spam between 5 and 10, ignoring most above that ... and 
> unconfirmed non-spam between 0 and 5 ...
> 
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