X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1AF9FB260 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 21:11:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 55983-06-5 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 21:11:17 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E4D9D9FA10E for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2006 21:09:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Sep 2006 00:09:38 -0000 Received: from dslb-084-063-058-225.pools.arcor-ip.net (EHLO colt.pezone.net) [84.63.58.225] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 02 Sep 2006 02:09:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #495269 From: Peter Eisentraut To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Getting a move on for 8.2 beta Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 02:09:35 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 Cc: Tom Lane , josh@agliodbs.com, Bruce Momjian References: <200609012225.k81MPwJ02170@momjian.us> <200609011639.42280.josh@agliodbs.com> <26043.1157154656@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <26043.1157154656@sss.pgh.pa.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200609020209.36483.peter_e@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200609/84 X-Sequence-Number: 89613 Tom Lane wrote: > Well, no, it's not. We have told people till we're blue in the face > "post early, post often". Now I will plead guilty to not always > having spent as much time giving feedback on draft patches as I > should've, but the process is pretty clear. As I see it the main > problem is people undertaking patches off in corners somewhere rather > than discussing their work on the mailing lists while they do it. Again, process support. If all we can offer people is to post multi-megabyte patches to the mailing list every month, that totally doesn't help. We'd need ways to track the progress on these things: what was the specification for that patch, where was the discussion on it, what has changed in the patch since the last time, since the time before last time, what is left to be done, who has worked on it, etc. Figuring out the answer to those questions from a mailing list archive is tedious to the point that no one wants to do it. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/