X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04199FA6B7 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 13:22:58 -0300 (ADT) Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26728-02 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 13:22:53 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from momjian.us (momjian.us [70.90.9.53]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5C09FA4A0 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 13:22:52 -0300 (ADT) Received: (from bruce@localhost) by momjian.us (8.11.6/8.11.6) id k82GMmJ12345; Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Momjian Message-Id: <200609021622.k82GMmJ12345@momjian.us> Subject: Re: Getting a move on for 8.2 beta In-Reply-To: <44F9AE51.1080104@pooteeweet.org> To: Lukas Kahwe Smith Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:22:48 -0400 (EDT) CC: Robert Treat , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL123] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.109 tagged_above=0 required=5 tests=AWL, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200609/152 X-Sequence-Number: 89681 Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Robert Treat wrote: > > > No offense, a whole lot of this thread seems to be positioned that way, but > > the real problem seems to be we do not have enough patch reviewers. ISTM the > > questions we should be asking are who can actually help out with patch review > > and then ask those people why they haven't done it. If folks like Peter, > > Andrew, Magnus, Simon, Joe, and Niel all say that they are not reviewing > > patches because they can't find the patches that need review, they can't > > figure out who is reviewing what, or they don't think anyone is paying > > attention when they do review something, then I think we have a serious > > problem and we certainly need to change processes. What I think you'll find > > is that they are all just busy working on other things, which in that case I > > think we need to figure out how to motivate them to focus on the patch queue > > rather than other items. IMHO > > I think that if all the patches are listed with all relevant context > information on a webpage, then people can more easily jump in when they > unexpectedly have time (or prefer to procrastinate some other real world > thing they should rather work on). Right now if you have a few hours to > spare you do not have all the information readily available. Even worse > by inquiring for the information you might feel you are commiting more > than you really wanted to. This kind of information needs to be right > there without any person having to actively provide it upon inquiry. OK, how does that happen without a lot of work, or moving all discussion on to a web-based system? -- Bruce Momjian bruce@momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +